Even if TCM is api-compatible, it will change how operators run
Cassandra in a significant way (like, different procedures from every
previous version.)  I think that justifies a major.

Kind Regards,
Brandon

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 11:51 AM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You’ve added a ton of API surface to transaction behavior and cluster 
> management. The TCM may or may not be strictly breaking, but they’re 
> fundamentally very very different, so even with semver as the only standard, 
> I think you can justify a major.
>
> But also, let’s just acknowledge that marketing is a thing and bump the major 
> to acknowledge the huge, massive, database-changing features, even if they’re 
> not meant to be disruptive.
>
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2024, at 9:46 AM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Currently we reserve MAJOR in semver changes for API breaking only: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=199530302#Patching,versioning,andLTSreleases-Versioningandtargeting:
>
> That's consistent w/semver itself: link:
>
> Given a version number MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, increment the:
>
> MAJOR version when you make incompatible API changes
> MINOR version when you add functionality in a backward compatible manner
> PATCH version when you make backward compatible bug fixes
>
>
> So absolute literal "correctness" of what we're doing aside, our version 
> numbers mean something to us as a dev community but also mean something to 
> Cassandra users. I'm not confident they mean the same thing to each 
> constituency. I'm also not comfortable with us prioritizing our own version 
> number needs over that of our users, should they differ in meaning.
>
> Does anybody have insight into how other well known widely adopted projects 
> do things we might be able to learn from? I generally only think about this 
> topic when a discussion like this comes up on our dev list so don't have much 
> insight to bring to the discussion.
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024, at 11:52 AM, Jeremiah Jordan wrote:
>
> The question is if we are signaling compatibility or purely marketing with 
> the release number.
> We dropped compatibility with a few things in 5.0, which was the reason for 
> the .0 rather than 4.2.  I don’t know if we are breaking any compatibility 
> with current trunk?  Though maybe some of the TCM stuff could be considered 
> that.
> If we are purely going for marketing value, then yes, I agree TCM+Accord 
> would be 6.0 worthy.
>
> -Jeremiah
>
> On Dec 10, 2024 at 10:48:21 AM, Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> wrote:
>
> Keeping this short.  I'm not sure why we're calling the next release 5.1.  
> TCM and Accord are a massive thing.  Other .1 / .2 releases were the .0 with 
> some smaller things added.  Imo this is a huge step forward, as big as 5.0 
> was, so we should call it 6.0.
>
>

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