NDA is not such a big hurdle for a potential contributor. You just sign it and that's it. Somehow no such contributors materialized even when JPA was a new frontier (compared to now when there's a bunch of alternative providers, and we don't have a way to differentiate ourselves).

The reasons for splitting that code are related to reducing the overhead we will incur. Namely:

1. We need to get JPA out of the releases, including documentation. (If we don't ship the libs, keeping the docs does not make sense).

2. Updating JPA classes as Cayenne core API evolves and ensuring all the tests still pass requires extra effort. This is not a huge deal now, but I expect it to become a drag in 3.1+, as we start diverging from JPA in things like callbacks, etc.

But I agree that doing the proposed reorg is a strategical decision in a sense that we are sending a clear signal to the community: there will be no Cayenne JPA. At least this is honest. I am doing that reluctantly, considering how many man-months I spent on that. The consolation is that we filled the blanks in Cayenne core as a result, while staying true to Cayenne user-friendly origins. This is something to build upon.

Andrus


On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
On 06/04/2009, at 5:55 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

Since we are not shipping JPA with 3.0, and further future of this line of development is undefined, we need to make some decisions now. I suggest doing what we did for DataViews - a separate location in SVN, and a separate wiki space. If this effort is revived (of which I have very strong doubts), we'll get it back to the main subtree.

What is the downside of just leaving it as is? The framework is nicely separated as a separate maven/eclipse project, and moving the documentation to be a second class citizen will only discourage anyone else from working on it.

As it is, there is perhaps more chance of someone finding it interesting and working on it, although the hurdles of signing the NDA, etc make that less likely.

Ari



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