Hi ,

Following are the review comments on the FS posted @ 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Region+level+VPC+and
+guest+network+spanning+multiple+zones:

How many guest networks we can scale using SDN?
Do we support mixed networks in a zone (VLAN+Tunnel)?
Any limitation on the number of zones an SDN network can span?
What are the services supported by SDN networks?
What are the services supported by region level VPC?
With SDN networks do we support any external devices?
Do we support SGs with SDN?
Do we support monitoring for SDN controller and the GRE tunnels between the 
hosts across zones?
What are the alerts and events generated by the controller?
With SDNs do we support zones with mixed hypervisors?(e.g: zone1 with xen and 
zone2 with ESX)
If vpc is tied to a zone can we have the tiers spanned across multiple zones?
If vpc is region level do we have control on the zone in which VR has to be 
deployed?
Networks spanning across multiple zones is applicable only to vpc 
networks(tiers) or any guest network which is not part of vpc as well?
Do we support SDNs in an upgraded environment?
Can we upgrade vlan based networks to SDN and vice-versa?
Upgrading zone level vpc to region level vpc and vice-versa?
What are the external dependencies for the SDN to work (ports need to be opened 
on the zone level firewalls)?


Thanks,
Sanjeev

-----Original Message-----
From: Murali Reddy [mailto:murali.re...@citrix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:51 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] region level VPC and guest network spanning multiple 
zones


Please find the FS for this proposal at below link. I will be sending out a 
different proposal covering the enhancements called out in the FS.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Region+level+VPC+and
+guest+network+spanning+multiple+zones

On 19/12/13 5:54 PM, "Murali Reddy" <murali.re...@citrix.com> wrote:

>I would like to propose two networking models enhancements for ACS 4.4 
>release that will enable building highly available applications. 
>Currently VPC in CloudStack is a zone level entity. So tiers with in 
>the VPC are confined to the zone to which VPC belongs. For an 
>application deployed in current model of VPC failure of the zone is a 
>single point of failure. It is desirable to make VPC a region level 
>entity, where tiers in the VPC can be created in different zones of the 
>region. When tiers can be created in different zones, application 
>hosted in VPC can be architected to be highly available masking zone 
>failures by having redundant tiers in different zones. While it may be 
>seen as natural extension, there are fundamental limitations with 
>VLAN/traditional L2 based networking due to which realizing it would be 
>non-trivial or require special solutions [1].
>Overlay networks [2] in the context of SDN & network virtualization 
>provides a way to build networks that are abstracted from 
>physical/underlay network. An overlay network is typically built with 
>tunnels across edge(vSwitch's in hypervisor) and core is plain L3 network.
>With requirement that L3 connectivity across zones and tunnels can be 
>established across the zones, an overlay network that spans multiple 
>zones is easily realized.
>
>Given the range of SDN controllers that are integrated with CS, goal of 
>this proposal is to leverage advances in SDN & network virtualization 
>introduce below generic notions into CS.
>
>- an advanced zone isolated network that can span multiple zones
>- a region level VPC where tiers belong to different zones.
>
>I have opened bugs [3],[4] to track these two enhancements. As part of 
>the effort I would like to extend the current OVS plug-in (that builds 
>overlay network with GRE tunnels) to realise these two use-cases. I 
>have opened bug [5] to track this enhancement.
>
>As long as we establish tunnels across the zones, we can have overlay 
>networks that are functional, but would be inefficient in handling 
>east-west traffic [6] and BUM traffic. While the problems exist in the 
>overlay networks that are confined to a zone as well, they are 
>compounded when the network spans multiple zones resulting in high 
>cross-zone east-west traffic. I would be sending out a complementary 
>proposal to introduce distributed routing and ACL's for east-west 
>traffic and ARP localisation that will allow only legitimate cross zone 
>east-west traffic.
>
>I will send out a functional specification with detailed requirements, 
>assumptions, limitation etc once I make progress with these enhancements.
>Please share any feedback and comments.
>
>[1]
>http://www.networkworld.com/news/tech/2010/090310-layer2-data-center-in
>ter
>c
>onnect.html
>[2]
>http://etherealmind.com/introduction-to-how-overlay-networking-and-tunn
>el-
>f
>abrics-work/
>[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-5567
>[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-5568
>[5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-5569
>[6]
>http://blog.ipspace.net/2011/02/traffic-trombone-what-it-is-and-how-you
>.ht
>m
>l
>
>


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