Hi Min,

On 07-Aug-2014, at 7:22 pm, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
>
> IMHO, the root cause for RM cherry-pick problem is code quality. Without
> solving that first based on some kind of enforcement, this will not help
> much. The reason to use forward branch and RM cherry-picking is to control
> what can go to release branch. Your proposal removed that part, then I am
> not sure how you can guarantee a quality release.

Please read the initial proposal and subject again, IMHO you can never 
guarantee code/commit quality.

This is to address the sync issue, from release branch to master and have 
people give more attention to release branch.
This is followed by a lot of companies such as fb, google, perforce etc.
Please search about “baseline protocol” and “tofu scale” to know more.

TL;DR -- “commit first on release branch, use merge --fast-forward  over 
cherry-picking”.

Cheers.

>
> Thanks
> -min
>
> On 8/7/14 6:06 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hari,
>>
>> You¹ve a valid concern, but on master when we¹re pushing bugfixes for
>> multiple issues the RM eventually picks them to release branch anyway.
>>
>> At the end of the day, usage of automated tests, build/unit tests will
>> ensure some quality control. This proposal will solve issues for RM (the
>> cherry-pick and losing commits ones) and it does not do much about code
>> quality or control.
>>
>> To get it working:
>> - During codefreeze, a contributor should not slip in half baked features
>> and use bugfix as an excuse to finish/fix the feature
>> - On the release branch you work first, fix/commit only bug/fixes and
>> release specific enhancements (such as docs, config files, scripts,
>> packaging etc.)
>> - Master branch is free and you can do wild development, merge your
>> feature branch that did not went in release etc. but you merge
>> ‹fast-forward the release branch on it often (couple of times a day is
>> recommended), fix conflicts and carry on
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> On 07-Aug-2014, at 2:51 pm, Harikrishna Patnala
>> <harikrishna.patn...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rohit,
>>> Thanks for the proposal.
>>>
>>> I¹ve some concerns.
>>> If we work directly on release branch only (with out forward branch)
>>> I¹m not sure how we control regressions in the release time.
>>>
>>> In case of forward branch cut from the release branch RMs will merge
>>> only critical bug fixes to release branch, where do the non-critical bug
>>> fixes go into ? according to your 2nd statement minor/major bug fixes
>>> remain in forward branch only.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harikrishna
>>>
>>> On 07-Aug-2014, at 2:09 pm, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think the following can solve the cherry-picking problem but it
>>>> needs everyone¹s support to work:
>>>>
>>>> - Once a release branch is cut out, all the committers and
>>>> contributors ³should² only work on the release branch. It can be
>>>> discussed if we want to work on it directly or branch out on it and
>>>> work in that branch and have RMs to merge that branch on the release
>>>> branch. IMO if we work directly on the release branch we potentially
>>>> reduce a lot of RM¹s work.
>>>>
>>>> - Only (new) feature development and related enhancements/bugfixes can
>>>> land on master directly or merged from their respective branches.
>>>>
>>>> - The RMs or anyone would keep merging the release branch with fast
>>>> forward only on regular basis:
>>>>    git checkout master
>>>>    git merge --ff <release-branch>
>>>>    <fix any conflicts and git commit -as etc.>
>>>>
>>>> This way Œmaster' gets all the good stuff from release branch and the
>>>> release branch gets ³more attention².
>>>>
>>>> If we somehow can reduce the release cycle timeline/length, the
>>>> divergence between master and release branches can be potentially less
>>>> causing less conflicts/issues when following the above.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts, flames?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rohit Yadav
>>>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
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>>>>
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