About LTS.

Here are some of the Mesos releases:

+## Releases ##
+
+ * Apache Mesos 0.23.1 (2015-09-21)
+ * Apache Mesos 0.22.2 (2015-09-23)
+ * Apache Mesos 0.21.2 (2015-09-24)
+ * Apache Mesos 0.25.0 (2015-10-09)
+ * Apache Mesos 0.26.0 (2015-12-10)

quite frequent.

Anyone cares to check their policies and CI…?


> On Jan 12, 2016, at 1:11 AM, ilya <ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rene
> 
> 
> In short BIG +1, for longer summary, please read below....
> 
> 
> PS: For LTS - you mean "Long Term Support" i assume.
> 
> We would be interested in seeing the support of 4.5 longer as well, as
> we are happy with what we got so far and dont have a burning need to
> upgrade yet.
> 
> Upgrade would also require serious testing across the board, so LTS
> release can buy us more time.
> 
> This is my opinion, Marcus would probably have a different opinion on this.
> 
> ---------
> 
> Side note:
> I had a somewhat similar endeavor few years back that attempted to solve
> this challenge. Though it was not just around "Long Term Support", but
> geared more towards "I need latest bug fix and feature now, I dont have
> 8+ months to wait".
> 
> I called the project CloudSand.
> 
> Back then, i was mostly focusing on ACS + VMware Integration, as the
> code existed in master branch but not in 4.1. Also did a small talk
> about it back in 2013 @ CCC in SF Bay area.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuEPoxVlBM
> 
> You can see it under www.cloudsand.com  - though now no longer
> maintained due to $dayjob$ restrictions (its complicated).
> 
> Either way, i'm in strong support of this initiative. I'm thinking just
> about anyone with fairly sized infrastructure - might do the same, why
> not merge the efforts?
> 
> Things to consider (this is strictly my opinion):
> 1) Pull/merge requests must be reviewed with scrutiny, we dont want LTS
> to be a test bed, but rather a stable build
> 2) Database changes should be avoided unless someone wants to maintain
> upgrade path, i just think it would be easier to just not pull commits
> that require DB change
> 3) End user should be able to upgrade to latest official ACS version
> without any issues or switch between - there should be no lock in..
> 
> I'd like to help with this effort, but don't know how much time i can
> dedicate to this effort.
> 
> Regards,
> ilya
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/9/16 2:51 PM, Rene Moser wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I recently started a discussion about the current release process. You
>> may have noticed that CloudStack had a few releases in the last 2 months.
>> 
>> My concerns were that many CloudStack users will be confused about these
>> many releases (which one to take? Are fixes backported? How long will it
>> receive fixes? Do I have to upgrade?).
>> 
>> We leads me to the question: Does CloudStack need an LTS version? To me
>> it would make sense in many ways:
>> 
>> * Users in restrictive cloud environments can choose LTS for getting
>> backwards compatible bug fixes only.
>> 
>> * Users in agile cloud environments can choose latest stable and getting
>> new features fast.
>> 
>> * CloudStack developers must only maintain the latest stable (mainline)
>> and the LTS version.
>> 
>> * CloudStack developers and mainline users can accept, that mainline may
>> break environments but will receive fast forward fixes.
>> 
>> To me this would make a lot of sense. I am actually thinking about
>> maintaining 4.5 as a LTS by myself.
>> 
>> Any thoughts? +1/-1?
>> 
>> Regards
>> René
>> 

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