I recall a thread discussing some call home functionalities a long time
ago; so, we could get some information about ACS usage. Does anyone know
how that thread ended?

The use o ACS plugin could be something trackable by a call home feature.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote:

> We have had similar conversations many times recently.  Unfortunately we
> have no way to track IF people are using different plugins, so it makes it
> really hard to know if people will expect it to be there if they upgrade...
>
> If anyone has ideas for how we can potentially find a way to track that, we
> should probably start a thread around that.
>
> *Will STEVENS*
> Lead Developer
>
> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Rafael Weingärtner <
> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Agree with you, but I think a nice talk with people using it to ask for
> > help might be a good idea.
> >
> > Sometimes they are not aware of these situations.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If we have to lay a burdon of fixing before release on people that
> > > don't use it, i would say no. You use it, you maintain it. I am happy
> > > to charge money to whoever wants to not maintain what they use.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Rafael Weingärtner
> > > <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Daan, before removing anything, I think we should check if there are
> > > people
> > > > using it, right?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> > daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I was about to reply along those lines. As you brought it up, we are
> > > >> now considering it. If the fix is easy I'd say let it stay till the
> > > >> next problem but it is ot the first time mido bugs us.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Simon Weller <swel...@ena.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> > So this brings up a good discussion point. As Jeff points out, the
> > > >> Midonet plugin hasn't been actively supported for almost 5 years. At
> > > what
> > > >> point do we consider retiring unsupported plugins?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Si
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ________________________________
> > > >> > From: Jeff Hair <j...@greenqloud.com>
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:43 AM
> > > >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > >> > Subject: Re: midonet-client and Guava dependency conflict
> > > >> >
> > > >> > After doing some more digging, I have confirmed the following:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    - The midonet plugin is using the Maven Shade plugin to put a
> > > bunch of
> > > >> >    dependencies into itself.
> > > >> >    - The plugin hosted in this repository was last updated in
> 2013.
> > > >> >    - Most importantly: removing all the guava stuff out of the
> > midonet
> > > >> >    plugin fixes this issue.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have not had any success in applying
> > > >> > https://github.com/openwide-java/tomcat-classloader-ordered to
> get
> > > >> Tomcat
> > > >> > [https://avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/1385131?v=3&s=400
> > ]<https://
> > > >> github.com/openwide-java/tomcat-classloader-ordered>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > GitHub - openwide-java/tomcat-classloader-ordered: A ...<
> > > >> https://github.com/openwide-java/tomcat-classloader-ordered>
> > > >> > github.com
> > > >> > README.md tomcat-classloader-ordered. A classloader for Apache
> > Tomcat
> > > 8
> > > >> which loads the jars of WEB-INF lib in alphabetical order. Prior to
> > > version
> > > >> 8, Apache Tomcat ...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > to load its jars in alphabetical order, for whatever reason. I
> tried
> > > >> > putting the Loader in various context definition locations, but it
> > > >> refuses
> > > >> > to work. Any ideas?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jeff
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Hair <j...@greenqloud.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm deploying 4.9.2.0 (not the vanilla version, but rather an
> > > upgraded
> > > >> >> version of our fork) on Tomcat 8. Management server startup fails
> > > with
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> following error:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError: Found interface
> > > >> >> com.google.common.base.Equivalence, but class was expected
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I've traced this down to the OutOfBandServiceManagerImpl. More
> > > >> >> specifically, when it tries to build the hostAlertCache using
> > Guava's
> > > >> >> CacheBuilder. Deep in Guava, it's calling an "identity()" method
> on
> > > the
> > > >> >> Equivalence class.  All of the Guava classes are coming from
> > > guava-19.0
> > > >> >> except for com/google/common/base/Equivalence.class. The
> > Equivalence
> > > >> >> class is being loaded from the midonet jar for some reason, and
> > that
> > > >> >> version does not have the method needed. Thus, the error.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> This is because Tomcat apparently does not load jars in
> > alphabetical
> > > >> order
> > > >> >> anymore, starting with version 8. An open ticket for them to fix
> > > this is
> > > >> >> here: https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57129
> > > >> > 57129 – Regression. Load WEB-INF/lib jarfiles in ...<
> > > >> https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57129>
> > > >> > bz.apache.org
> > > >> > ASF Bugzilla – Bug 57129 Regression. Load WEB-INF/lib jarfiles in
> > > >> alphabetical order Last modified: 2016-03-17 09:59:50 UTC
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It could be possible to "fix" this by using a custom ClassLoader
> to
> > > >> force
> > > >> >> Tomcat to load things alphabetically (testing that right now--and
> > not
> > > >> >> really succeeding), but the proper fix is to have the midonet
> > client
> > > >> not be
> > > >> >> packaging guava with itself. Does anyone know why this is?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jeff
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Daan
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rafael Weingärtner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daan
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rafael Weingärtner
> >
>



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Rafael Weingärtner

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