+1 too

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rene Moser" <m...@renemoser.net>
> To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 February, 2018 10:11:45
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] VR upgrade downtime reduction

> On 02/06/2018 02:47 PM, Remi Bergsma wrote:
>> Hi Daan,
>> 
>> In my opinion the biggest issue is the fact that there are a lot of different
>> code paths: VPC versus non-VPC, VPC versus redundant-VPC, etc. That's why you
>> cannot simply switch from a single VPC to a redundant VPC for example.
>> 
>> For SBP, we mitigated that in Cosmic by converting all non-VPCs to a VPC 
>> with a
>> single tier and made sure all features are supported. Next we merged the 
>> single
>> and redundant VPC code paths. The idea here is that redundancy or not should
>> only be a difference in the number of routers. Code should be the same. A
>> single router, is also "master" but there just is no "backup".
>> 
>> That simplifies things A LOT, as keepalived is now the master of the whole
>> thing. No more assigning ip addresses in Python, but leave that to keepalived
>> instead. Lots of code deleted. Easier to maintain, way more stable. We just
>> released Cosmic 6 that has this feature and are now rolling it out in
>> production. Looking good so far. This change unlocks a lot of possibilities,
>> like live upgrading from a single VPC to a redundant one (and back). In the
>> end, if the redundant VPC is rock solid, you most likely don't even want 
>> single
>> VPCs any more. But that will come.
>> 
>> As I said, we're rolling this out as we speak. In a few weeks when 
>> everything is
>> upgraded I can share what we learned and how well it works. CloudStack could
>> use a similar approach.
> 
> +1 Pretty much this.
> 
> René

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