+1. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 7/6/16, 9:00 AM, "Greg Reddin" <[email protected]> wrote: >I too am willing to give the project more time, but I think this will >be one more chance and will be for a limited, specified amount of >time. If we don't see progress in that time (I'd propose maybe three >months?) then we have to retire it. > >I'd like to address some specific issues and make sure the community >understands what is needed to resolve them. I'll start a separate >thread to that end. > >Thanks, >Greg > > >On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Jia Zhang <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Chris and Mentors: >> >> Thanks very much for giving us CMDA community this second opportunity! >> >> We will follow your advice and learn to build our CMDA community in the >> Apache family, leveraging Apache best practice. >> >> Best regards, >> Jia >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Given Lei and Jia’s response, I am OK to give them a few more months >>> to figure it out, but it’s really got to happen during that time or >>> we’ll be right back here to square one. >>> >>> Lei, and Jia, and CMDA community: you can start by writing an Incubator >>> report this month that demonstrates the community introspection and the >>> plan, and then you can follow by interacting here at the ASF, first, >>> and only, for your project. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Chief Architect >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/5/16, 12:58 PM, "Pan, Lei (398K)" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >Like Jia said, we would like to stay and therefore >>> >would appreciate it greatly if the mentors could >>> >give us a three-month probation. >>> > >>> >Our latest efforts in creating a CMDA community include >>> >recruiting a Caltech student into our development >>> >team via the summer internship program, and getting >>> >ready to serve as the tool for the Caltech/JPL climate >>> >summer school. We will be reporting the details of >>> >these activities along the way. >>> > >>> >Thanks a lot for your help! >>> >-Lei >>> >________________________________________ >>> >From: Jia Zhang [[email protected]] >>> >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 11:01 AM >>> >To: [email protected] >>> >Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire the CMDA Podling >>> > >>> >Dear Chris and Mentors: >>> > >>> >The team had a meeting to retrospect our Apache Incubator experience. We >>> realized that the team has put a lot of intention to building the project >>> but put insufficient efforts on fulfilling Apache requirements. Our deep >>> apology from the team. >>> > >>> >Now that we have understood the importance of following Apache procedure >>> and smoothing and documenting all communications, we would like to ask for >>> another chance to work on the incubator project. Say, we would ask for a >>> three month of testing time frame. If we fail to meet the requirement, we >>> will retire the project. >>> > >>> >Please let us know your thoughts. >>> > >>> >Best regards, >>> >Jia >>> > >>> >> On Jul 5, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Chris Mattmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> As a mentor, this is a difficult decision for me. Overall, I am +1 >>> >> in favor of retiring the podling. >>> >> >>> >> The podling has been given ample time to discuss and make use of >>> >> the Apache mentorship and community and its actions have shown that >>> >> the mentality for development is unfortunately different. I believe >>> >> it is in the best interests of both the community for CMDA and the >>> >> Apache community to retire the podling at this point in time. >>> >> >>> >> Sincerely, >>> >> Chris Mattmann >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> On 7/5/16, 8:57 AM, "Martin Desruisseaux" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello John >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry for the delay. I saw the thread and the call for the vote, but >>> I'm >>> >>> not sure to understand what "podling" means? >>> >>> >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Le 03/07/16 à 15:27, John D. Ament a écrit : >>> >>>> All, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> There was a discussion recently [1] started by Chris about the state >>> of the >>> >>>> podling. I'm concerned about lack of public activity, and what seems >>> to be >>> >>>> external forces who control the state of the podling. As a result, >>> I'm >>> >>>> calling a vote to retire the CMDA podling. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> [ ] +1 to retire CMDA from the Incubator >>> >>>> [ ] -1 to keep CMDA in the Incubator >>> >>>> >>> >>>> John >>> >>>> >>> >>>> [1]: >>> >>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3c341a6f977e1e650980fb0c66f8669e428c98bc2e8c130d6f948d21@%3Cdev.cmda.apache.org%3E >>> >> >>>
