Hi Jia, When you contact the students, please CC [email protected] and get in the habit of doing so related to personnel matters. We need transparency in the communications related to the project so this is a good opportunity to do so. Also that lets others chime in and help/and be part of the conversation.
As for the web page, I am assuming you are talking about: http://cmda.incubator.apache.org/ Which currently doesn’t have a web page associated with this. We can easily deal with that - someone from Apache CMDA can easily file an INFRA ticket here: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA And request that a web presence space be set up. Our options are: 1. custom HTML website generated by our own process and simply updated in SVN. 2. Apache Content Management System (CMS) http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html We need to decide on #1 or #2 before contacting INFRA. HTH! Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 7/8/16, 8:50 AM, "Jia Zhang" <[email protected]> wrote: >Dear Greg: > >Oh, good. > >That being said, I will notify the previous students that they could choose >to request to be moved to "emeritus" status or removed from the PMC, or >they can choose to stay within the community and continue to contribute. > >Meanwhile, who we should contact to update the homepage of the CMDA >project? We plan to update the homepage to further explain the project >goals, strategy etc to call for more contribution in the community. > >Thanks a lot. > >Best regards, >Jia > >On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Greg Reddin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Also, people are almost never removed from a project. Merit never >> expires even if the person walks away from the project. A person who >> is no longer involved can ask to be moved to "emeritus" status or >> removed from the PMC. But it would be at his/her request not a move of >> the community. >> >> Greg >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi Jia, >> > >> > Thanks. Please check out: >> > >> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> > >> > >> > Also please note discussions of specific personnel should be held >> > on the [email protected] list. One of the only (few) >> > things that are private the the ASF. >> > >> > Please start with a [DISCUSS] <Person Name> as an Apache CMDA >> PPMC/committer >> > >> > Thread, followed by a [VOTE] <Person Name> as an Apache CMDA >> PPMC/committer >> > thread say 48-72 hours after if there are no objections. >> > >> > We also can’t bulk remove or add people, we must VOTE them in one >> > by one, and describe why/based on technical merit, prior background >> > experience, goodness for the community, etc. >> > >> > Again all of this should be on [email protected]. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> > Chief Architect >> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> > Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> > Email: [email protected] >> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >> > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 7/7/16, 3:39 PM, "Jia Zhang" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >>Dear Chris, Greg, and other Mentors: >> >> >> >>The CMDA community had in-depth discussions today on Greg's instructions >> on >> >>how to become a qualified Apache project. For each item specified by >> Greg, >> >>we have examined our current workflow and discussed how to adjust >> >>accordingly. >> >> >> >>First thing we would like to do is to organize Apache CMDA repository, so >> >>that code can be checked into Apache git directly from committers. >> >> >> >>Would you please help let the following people become committer for >> Apache >> >>CMDA? Please list them as committers for the project. >> >>-QiHaoBao (Qihao Bao) >> >>-holysoul (Runyu Shi) >> >> >> >>Meanwhile, please remove the following committers as they are not part of >> >>the community any longer. >> >>-Wei Wang >> >>-Chris Lee >> >>-Xing Wei >> >> >> >>Thanks a lot. >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Jia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Second, code is not developed in Apache repositories. Instead it is >> >>imported in bulk. For CMDA to be a community-driven project code must >> >>be committed directly to the Apache repo first. If some folks need to >> >>maintain a fork for their own uses elsewhere, including for student >> >>projects, that's fine. But individual commits, not bulk commits need >> >>to be taking place in Apache repos, not external ones. >> >> >> >>Third, decisions are not made by the community. They appear to be made >> >>by a few people separate from the dev list and presented here after >> >>the fact. We see meeting minutes where things have been decided and >> >>assignments made. If I want to contribute to the Docker container, how >> >>can I do that? If I want to contribute to improving the HTML front >> >>ends how would I go about that? How can someone from the outside of >> >>your core group help decide what the next step will be and contribute >> >>code? That's the essence of the Apache Way. >> >> >> >>Now, here are some specific things I need to see before I can say the >> >>project is making progress in the right direction. >> >> >> >>1. Code from school projects should be submitted to Apache by the >> >>author and committed to the Apache repo by a CMDA committer. It can be >> >>submitted through a Jira attachment, GitHub pull request, etc. >> >> >> >>2. Discussion regarding school projects should take place on the CMDA dev >> >>list. >> >> >> >>3. We must see commits of code to the Apache CMDA repository. These >> >>are not imports of large blocks of code worked on for a long time, but >> >>individual changes submitted one at a time directly to the Apache >> >>project. The Apache repo must be the primary source code repository. >> >> >> >>4. Make decisions regarding code and project direction on the CMDA dev >> >>list. Offlist face-to-face meetings are ok, but no decisions can be >> >>made, only recommendations. If someone on list offers an alternative >> >>solution to any of those recommendations it must receive equal weight >> >>and the community decides collectively how to proceed. >> >> >> >>Discussions regarding project direction, features, releases, who's >> >>working on what, etc. must take place on the CMDA dev list. >> >> >> >>Finally, please understand that if the project is not compatible with >> >>the Apache style of development, it's not a failure. It would not be a >> >>bad mark on your "resume'." It would simply mean that the project >> >>relies on some tenets of development that are not driven by the >> >>community. Perhaps it is better for this project to be presented to >> >>the community after work is done, as opposed to allowing the community >> >>broad input as to its direction. If so that's fine. But if you want to >> >>be at Apache that broad input from the community is an absolute >> >>requirement. >> >> >> >>Please let me know if any clarification of these points is needed. >> >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Greg >> >>Jia Zhang >> >> >> >>Dear Greg, Thanks a lot for your detailed instructions on Apache >> >>requirements... >> >>Jul 6 (1 day ago) >> >>Mattmann, Chris A (3980) via >> >><https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> >> >>cmda.incubator.apache.org >> >>Jul 6 (1 day ago) >> >>to dev >> >>This is great advice I recommend folks read it carefully. >> >> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> >>Chief Architect >> >>Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> >>Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> >>Email: [email protected] >> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >> >>Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> >>WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Lee, Seungwon (398K) >> >> >> >>Hi, This email describes what Apache way of development should be, and >> now >> >>I ... >> >>Jul 6 (1 day ago) >> >>Jia Zhang <[email protected]> >> >>Jul 6 (1 day ago) >> >>to Seungwon, Lei, Chengxing, Benyang >> >>Sounds good. Let's discuss tomorrow. >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Jia >> >>Click here to Reply, Reply to all, or Forward >> >>Using 42.05 GB >> >>Manage <https://accounts.google.com/b/0/ManageStorage?hl=en> >> >>Program Policies >> >><https://www.gmail.com/intl/en/mail/help/program_policies.html> >> >>Powered by >> >>Google >> >><https://www.google.com/> >> >>Last account activity: 0 minutes ago >> >>Details >> >>People (7) >> >>Mattmann, Chris A (3980) >> >> >> >>Add to circles >> >>Show details >> >>Compose: >> >>Ask to grant Qihao Bao access to Apache repository >> >>[image: Minimize][image: Pop-out][image: Close] >> >>[email protected] >> >>we would like to do is to redirect all code movement to Apache git. >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Jia >>
