On Mar, 24 de Mayo de 2005, 16:09, Upayavira dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: >> On Mar, 24 de Mayo de 2005, 15:35, Sylvain Wallez dijo: >> >>>Sebastien Arbogast wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The second important thing I notice in your remark is the argument >>>>that people here know Cocoon but not PHP. But it's exactly our point : >>>>we don't think Cocoon documentation should remain between Cocoon >>>>developers and that's also why we chose a PHP based CMS : because >>>>people are used to it, to its structures, to its customs. Right now >>>>it's much more natural than any Cocoon-based solution. We consider >>>>that documentation should not be written by developers and read by >>>>users... everybody should be able to participate in the same effort >>>>according to its own skills. >>>> >>>>Last but not least, our objective is precisely to make documentation >>>>writing completely independent from the unerlying technologies, so >>>>nobody should need to know neither Cocoon nor PHP to write >>>>documentation (yes a little bit of Cocoon should be useful if one >>>>wants his content to be useful but... you got my point) >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I'm sorry, but this is plain bullshit blabla to ease the pain of not >>>using our own dog food. >>> >>>Cocoon is used by some huge content management systems all over the >>>world. And it wouldn't be suitable to manage its own docs? People will >>>laugh at us and go away. >> >> >> Sorry to get my spoon in this thread. Sylvain POV is valid. To make the >> things clear, the problem related to cocoon docs was and IS content >> related. No one technology is not going to automatically write the >> Cocoon >> documentation for us now. We need people that write it. >> >> We have great CMS cocoon based as Apache Lenya or Daisy. Also there is >> Apache Forrest. All of them can manage this task. But again the problem >> is >> not about the technology. > > That is not correct. To use Forrest, Lenya, Daisy, or Drupal, for that > matter, you need to be familiar with it. Mark is familiar with Drupal, > so it is what he used. > > As I have said previously, people who want to write docs aren't > necessarily the same people who want to learn and install (or even > write) content management systems. If we want people to use a Cocoon > based CMS, then we need to give them one! I.e. install it somewhere, set > up the systems so that people who want to write content can just do it, > without having to learn to use SVN, to download Forrest, etc, etc. No, > just go to a website, click 'add', and start typing.
I think we crossed out mails. ;-) Please see my just few minutes before answer related to apache zones? ;-) For example, lenya already started his own: http://lenya.zones.apache.org:8888/ Best Regards, Antoino Gallardo
