Thanks, Upayavira. Your response is better than what I would have written myself.
In addition, I have quite a bit of frustration that it doesn't seem (from my perspective) that it is all that important to those who do have the time to try to get a release of trunk out. It would make it far easier for me to recommend moving to 2.2, and this be given the time at work, if a release was in sight. As it is I expect there to be several milestone releases before a 2.2.0 is released. I pushed hard for a 2.1.9 release primarily because my project at work is on a deadline and I needed all the latest portal patches. I am currently adding enhancements to the 2.1.9 base even though I know Carsten has already added similar functionality in trunk. Believe me, I'd much rather just use those, but given the way things are I really don't have a choice. Ralph Upayavira said: > Reinhard Poetz wrote: >> Ralph Goers wrote: >> >>> I also get paid to do real work. OSGi doesn't fit in those plans. A >>> lot of other stuff in trunk does but I can't have it because a release >>> of trunk isn't going to happen in 2006. My employer won't pay me to >>> work on stuff that they won't see in the next few months. And there >>> is enough stuff in 2.1 that needs fixing to keep me busy for a long >>> time. >> >> What exactly is stopping you from working on trunk to make the release >> happen? > > People differ in terms of their freedom to work. Some people are > fortunate in that they have free time that they can contribute to > projects they believe in. Others aren't. > > I myself have a young family, with another on the way, which pretty > effectively fills my non-work time. So, the only way I can get to work > on projects is to persuade my boss that it is a good idea, and do it on > work time. > > And of course bosses tend not to favour their employees working on > speculative projects that _may_ give results, unless that is directly > related to the nature of their business. > > I personally have had the opportunity to introduce Cocoon into my > current workplace, but, due to the additional complexity it would have > brought to play, have not been able to justify it. Thus, I have not been > in a position to contribute to Cocoon in terms of code for quite some > time. > > Personally, I am grateful that you and Daniel are free to do the work > that you are doing. If you get a sense of frustration from Ralph, > perhaps you can read that as the frustration that he himself doesn't > have the kind of free time to give to it that you do. > > For Ralph to be able to contribute, he needs to be able to justify it. > If you could help him justify it, he may help sooner. Otherwise, he'll > just carry on waiting. Either, in the end, is just going to have to be > fine. > > But then, surely all of the above is obvious, no? > > Regards, Upayavira >
