Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Do you want to solve this for our first release? If we add the "beta" postfix, adding some solution in the future isn't a problem. If you agree, I would like to postpone the discussion for the time after first beta release.

I personally would like to have this in the first beta release, so we
can see if this is the right solution and eventually change this in the
next beta :)

I would like to have a first beta release in May. If we're fast enough, I don't have a problem. I just wanted to say that finding a solution isn't a must.

@ your question: You probably don't like my answer but OSGi already solves this kind of problem for us. Considering this I would only go for a very simple solution so that user _can_ provide their own configuration files which are used _instead_ of a block's configuration. For the usual needs (forms, template, mail, apples, pdf block) this should be enough. Don't know about the portal which is probably the use case you're thinking of.

The portal is no problem as you have your own config file anyway. I'm
more thinking of core or some blocks were you just add your own
components or override some, like adding your own validator to cforms
(which is no problem) or overriding the default email validator with
your own one (which is a problem).

How does OSGi solve this?

Since OSGi4 declarative services are supported. Think of Spring dependency injection but considering interface/implementation relations. You can use the OSGi configuratonAdmin service to change an injected component or a component's properties.

Additionally we have the possibility to redisgn e.g. forms and portal to use the OSGi whiteboard pattern[1]. Using it makes extending them very simple as it makes extensions very simple - you just have to provide a component that implements a particular interface and it is automatically added as reference to another component.

[1] http://www.osgi.org/documents/osgi_technology/whiteboard.pdf

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