On 15.08.2006 17:28, Jason Johnston wrote:

I am interested (and I think the community needs to know) what Joerg's criteria for approving an eventual move to 1.5 would need to be, in some measurable way. I'm sure he would agree that at some point in the future moving to 1.5+ will be appropriate, but how will we know when that time has come?

That's indeed a very difficult question. And there is probably nothing measurable. I argued with the silent user base still using Java 1.4 - they will probably also not stand up and shout "Now we us Java 5, you can switch."

But I trust in our community health. Just have a look around on comparable frameworks and see what they are doing. I mentioned Spring. Geronimo is another case: Still a J2EE 1.4 server they think about JEE 5 - and so Java 5. But they also think about Java 1.4 compatibility, be it via retro* or via plugins. Unfortunately they came not really into discussion about this topic [1], but went on to JPA.

Another question is about the efforts according to the libraries we are using. At the moment I don't know any actually requiring Java 5. And a framework should IMHO definitely not walk in the first line.

So, no, I don't have anything measurable. And we will probably have to think about this topic again, be it in one year or with the next minor or major version of Cocoon.

Jörg

[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=115506018700005&r=1&w=4

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