Ralph Goers wrote:
I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
I don't think so ...
Personally, I think there
would be a lot of interest in anything related to Spring.
Agreed
I know I do
for what I am doing at work. However, it would be much easier,
politically as well as practically, to leverage it if was outside of
Cocoon.
As for Excalibur, I'm not sure if you are really referring to the Avalon
problems or if you consider the current Excalibur to have failed
Ok, let me be more specific. What I meant is that the original idea that our
community had when we moved stuff over to the Excalibur project failed. Our life
got more complicated instead of the opposite. I'm not sure about the Excalibur
community - but according to the board reports it's definitly not the most
active one.
- even
though it isn't quite dead as I still get emails from time to time. If
it is really Excalibur you are referring to then I would suggest that
that is just a case of the Java world finding a better alternative.
That isn't a "failure" - after all Cocoon has successfully leveraged it
for years. It is just normal software evolution.
So what if Cocoon ends up being the only user of this? The point is
that it will probably never be leveraged outside of Cocoon until it is
split off.
chicken/egg?
I don't think that it is a good idea to move out stuff that has never been
released right now. We have to learn to deal with the split-up core and it will
take some time to get all dependencies right.
Even if you tell me that the specific dependencies of cocoon-spring are carved
in stone I don't believe you _today_ - maybe after doing some releases and
gaining at least some interest outside of our community.
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Reinhard Pötz Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach
{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}
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