Hi Robby,
nope we're not using Saxon and we can't since, AFAIK, there are legal
issue due to different licenses, but I don't know more details. For
the same reason Saxon is not present in any of public Maven central
repo.
HTH,
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Robby Pelssers
<robby.pelss...@ciber.com> wrote:
>
> Just reading through lamdaj. They use proxies... interesting...
>
> Anyway, I'm having some strange bugs in a big C2.2 application I built and 
> what worries me is I can't reproduce them locally ;-(
> Flowscript is nice but it becomes dangerous when you start building reusable 
> flowscript components which you might even share between cocoon blocks.  
> Refactoring has to be done with great care since Eclipse will not blink an 
> eye.
>
> PS.
> One question. Are you using saxon8.7 with cocoon3?
>
> Kind regards,
> Robby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Simone Tripodi [mailto:simone.trip...@gmail.com]
> Verzonden: wo 8-12-2010 8:22
> Aan: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [C3] Pipeline DSL
>
> Hi Robby,
> I perfectly agree with you!!! even if I'm conservative I recently
> started having the feeling of a subset of functional APIs that really
> simplify the objects creation/setup. Pipeline for example, even if has
> a very simple and intuitive APIs, sometimes are subject to users
> misinterpretation, with the new builder users are forced to follow the
> right workflow.
>
> Yet another good example of functional Java is LamdaJ
> (http://code.google.com/p/lambdaj/) that looks very similar to your
> stuff; that should put an emphasis on java users need of functional
> APIs.
>
> Back to Cocoon: unfortunately I don't know C2.X, since I began
> directly with C3... but I agree with Jos, you can safely choose for C3
> :P
>
> Thanks for the feedback and have a nice day!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Jos Snellings <jos.snelli...@pandora.be> 
> wrote:
>> Good point.
>> I would say: everything you need and even more is there!
>>
>> For people who were familiar with 2.2 or who want to port their application:
>> they are going to miss flowscript.
>> For people who lost contact in version 2.1 or so, they will probably be
>> missing xsp as a presentation scripting, and then get used to the rigid
>> separation line imposed by StringTemplate.
>>
>> So my message would be: cocoon3 is 'gewöhnungsbedürftig', but you can safely
>> choose for it.
>> There is a non-vanishing upgrade effort involved.
>>
>> Jos
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2010 10:54 PM, Robby Pelssers 
>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Simoni,
>>>
>>> i think it's indeed more fluent and more explicit.  So I think it
>>> certainly is an improvement.  Only a few days back I wrote a mail to my
>>> fellow Java team members complaining that Java feels like a big fat bloated
>>> beast more and more with lack of expressiveness and higher order functions.
>>>  Especially after playing with functional languages. And Guava and
>>> functionaljava are good examples...
>>>
>>> Hell,
>>> I even am experimenting myself with similar stuff ;-)
>>> http://code.google.com/p/functionalprogramming/wiki/Introduction
>>>
>>> By the way...
>>> If I were to jump on the Cocoon 3 wagon... would i be able to do the same
>>> stuff already as with 2.2?  Or let me rephrase the question... is most stuff
>>> already ported to 3.0?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Robby Pelssers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: Simone Tripodi [mailto:simone.trip...@gmail.com]
>>> Verzonden: di 7-12-2010 21:39
>>> Aan: dev@cocoon.apache.org
>>> Onderwerp: [C3] Pipeline DSL
>>>
>>> Hi all guys,
>>> I just committed a first working spike of a Pipeline DSL[1] to expose
>>> more fluent APIs to final users to help them correctly creating and
>>> running pipelines, built on top of pipeline APIs.
>>> I also modified a test to show how to use the new APIs.
>>> WDYT? Every feedback/suggestion would be much more than appreciated!!!
>>> Have a nice day,
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/cocoon-pipeline/src/main/java/org/apache/cocoon/pipeline/builder
>>> [2]
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/cocoon3/trunk/cocoon-sax/src/test/java/org/apache/cocoon/sax/PipelineTest.java#testPipelineWithCompiledXSLT()
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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