Hi guys, OTOH I personally would have be pleased on supporting this kind of initiative, I like the idea of giving PHP users a Cocoon experience! Disclaimer: I have PHP basics, but no deep knowledge about FWs, so apologize in advance if it wouldn't fit in that area. Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Thorsten Scherler <scher...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 13:55 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> Hello all, >> we, the maintainers of the Piwi Framework are currently discussing if >> we move to the ASF.http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/piwi/?redir=1 >> Piwi is an xml/xslt transformation framework in PHP. The reason I >> write to this list is because Piwi has stolen many things from Cocoon >> :-) We are speaking of Generators, Pipelines, Transformers, >> Serializers etc. As you can imagine, Piwi is some kind of PHP >> implementation of Cocoon. Due to the different nature of PHP we differ >> on various places from Cocoon. But after all you can say, if you >> manage to work with Cocoon, you have a good chance to understand Piwi >> very quickly. >> Therefore it might make sense to run Piwi as some kind of Cocoon subproject. >> >> Piwis goal is to create web applications quickly (as so many frameworks). >> >> One of the problems we currently are facing is community. Piwi has >> only a small community, users know each one face to face. There are >> many strong frameworks out there, like the Zend MVC. This might be a >> problem Zeta Components is facing too (another ASF project). >> >> Now I am an ASF committer and member, working on various projects >> (including the incubator). For me it makes perfect sense to move the >> project to the incubator and start building up a community. Other >> projects like Zeta Components and log4php might benefit from it. >> Anyway, to make this happen we need help. We are only two guys and >> therefore we are looking for other Apache Committers who are >> interested in stepping up as initial committers, mentors, champion. >> Please shout, if you are interested or let me know what you think abou it >> >> Cheers,Christian > > Hi Christian, > > I can remember http://markmail.org/thread/g3gddotmzdwdc6v5 and > especially Davids answer http://markmail.org/message/ujr7jrvmgddwcmmc > ATM IMO substitute forrest with cocoon and you would have an answer. > > Do not get me wrong but I am not sure whether similarity in concepts > justify being subproject of cocoon. Regarding the community I do not > think that being subproject of cocoon would help with that neither. > > salu2 > -- > Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org> > codeBusters S.L. - web based systems > <consulting, training and solutions> > http://www.codebusters.es/ > >