Well guess I haven't stated it yet: I would be willing to work on it (I've 
especially for some ideas on streaming industrial data from plc4x).

Personally I would let the pre-2.2 branch rest in peace. All is dependencies 
are so extremely old and the jdks for some are no longer available. At least I 
probably wouldn't touch it and focus on the "middle"... Possibly have a look at 
3.0 (haven't done that yet).

Chris

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From: Cédric Damioli <cdami...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 3:47:14 PM
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org <dev@cocoon.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Now that the release is out, what's next?

Hi,

On top of that, as a community, we now have to formally answer to the below 
question (going or not to the Attic) not only once, but three times, one time 
for each subproject we still officially maintain since more than 10 years :
 - Cocoon 2.1.x (pre-Spring, pre-Maven). Last release 2.1.13 was rolled out 3 
years ago.
 - Cocoon 2.2x (now 2.3.x). Last release these days.
 - Cocoon 3.0.x. Last release 3.0.0-alpha-3 back in 2011

Those 3 versions are not compatible with each other, are not meant as drop-in 
replacements, and have evolved differently over the years.

The community could either decide to stop the project as-is and go to the 
Attic, or start over maintaining only one or two branches.

Cédric

Le 19/11/2023 à 18:20, Christofer Dutz a écrit :

Hi folks,



So, it seems that we finally have finished the last missing steps to formally 
get the release out the door. Now I think comes a time where we should reflect 
and discuss, what should happen with the Project.



So instead of simply saying: Releasing it was such a struggle (not technically, 
but from a participation side) I wouldn’t say this project is healthy and we 
should discuss a move into the Attic.



However, I could also imagine that the changes I implemented in the build might 
encourage some folks to give it another go.



I know when I was doing projects with Cocoon as part of my day-job 20 years 
ago, Cocoon 2.2 sort of completely broke my flow. Not only my inexperience with 
Maven, but also that of Spring and the versioning scheme where all sorts of 
cocoon modules had different versions just made me give up at that time and 
switch to Adobe Flex ;-)



Now (15 years later) Maven and Spring have evolved and with the cleanups in the 
build, it should be a lot simpler to work with Cocoon and with all modules 
sharing the same version, also this should be a lot simpler.



So, I would like to ask you folks:

  *   Should we aim directly for the Attic?
  *   Does anyone want to revive the project? (I’m intentionally not only 
addressing committers and PMC members, but also people wanting to keep the 
project alive)





Chris


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