On 1/19/15 10:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:15:42 -0500, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Phil Steitz
>> <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/19/15 7:51 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
>>> > Le 19/01/2015 15:32, Benedikt Ritter a écrit :
>>> >
>>> >> Now the question is: do we want to make an exception for the
>>> Commons RDF
>>> >> project?
>>> > I don't think we should make an exception. Setting up mail
>>> filters isn't
>>> > that difficult.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> We don't have "subprojects" or "projects" within Commons.  As Mark
>>> pointed out, that is not allowed at the ASF.  If you want to have a
>>> separate project with separate lists, etc., then you need to go
>>> TLP.
>>>
>>> All are welcome to join us.  This looks like an interesting
>>> component that would be broadly useful.  Interesting people,
>>> problems and code.  Welcome, all!
>>>
>>> But we are not just a groupId here.  All of our components benefit
>>> from the combined eyeballs we have.  That is how it works and
>>> how it
>>> *has* to work according to our charter and ASF "anti-umbrella"
>>> rules.
>>>
>>
>> Well said. Commons is a project with components, RDF would be
>> another
>> component.
>
> Words without semantics...
>
> Looking up "apache project component" in a web search engine
> turned out:
>
> * "HttpComponents"
>   Here, the "components" are all related to "Http".  Not so in
> "Commons".
> * "Camel-extra"
>   Herer (IIUC), the "components" all depend on a single
> framework.  Not
>   so in "Commons".
> * Others use the term "components" to describe the "sub-units"
> (for my
>   lacking of a better synonym of "component"...) of the software. 
> Not
>   so in "Commons".

No.  Umbrella projects are not allowed at the ASF.  That is why
Jakarta was broken up.  That is also why Hadoop is not one great big
umbrella.  When sub-things get large enough, they become separate
projects.  HttpComponents is actually a good example.  That used to
be part of Commons.

Phil
>
>
> Gilles
>
>> Gary
>
>
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