Note that we can change the name Apache Commons Math to Apache Commons Cutesy name as well as turn it into a multi-module project. You do not need a TLP to do that.
I see lots of email about name change but not many about why this component would better serve its community under a TLP and/or different PMC and/or policies. Where's the beef?! ;-) Gary On Jan 25, 2016 9:00 AM, "Ole Ersoy" <ole.er...@gmail.com> wrote: > I like any name that is simple (It's also good if it has a nice ring to > it). If we are hoping to incorporate more modules from other projects then > perhaps 'apache-davinci'? I like 'apache-epsilon' as well. > > On 01/25/2016 05:40 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc <l...@spaceroots.org> wrote: >> >>> Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician. >>>> >>> In which case it has to be >> >> Euclid or Pythagoras (early) >> or >> Paul Erdős - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number >> >> and everyone has heard of >> John Nash (Beautiful Mind) >> >> etc. >> In the spirit of recent discussions, how about a RNG to pick the >> mathematician's name for each next incarnation? >> >> ;-) >> >> If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient >>>> went >>>> to Apache HttpComponents. How about Apache Math Components as TLP name? >>>> >>> I quite like Apache Epsilon as a non-descriptive but related name. >> >> [ducks behind bikshed] >> >> Benedikt >>>> >>>> 2016-01-25 8:40 GMT+01:00 Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> Umbrella-ish is good. Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural >>>>> networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an umbrella. >>>>> Some >>>>> of the other Apache projects that do math may be interested in moving >>>>> that >>>>> piece under the Apache Math umbrella. >>>>> >>>>> Personally I like to see each in a separate repository dedicated to the >>>>> subject, along with the corresponding documentation, etc So: >>>>> apache-math (Central repository describing the project as a whole with >>>>> the >>>>> documentation that cuts across modules) >>>>> apache-math-linear-real >>>>> apache-math-linear-field >>>>> apache-math-optimization-genetic >>>>> apache-math-optimization-simplex >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> And hopefully: >>>>> apache-math-optimization-integer >>>>> apache-math-optimization-mixed >>>>> And more.. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ole >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/24/2016 04:41 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just plain and simple "Apache Math" maybe? >>>>>>> Or is it taken already? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not taken; but I thought it was too broad-sounding and in fact >>>>>> umbrella-ish. There are other ASF projects that do math-relates >>>>>> things. >>>>>> I >>>>>> think adding "components" makes it look more like a library of base >>>>>> components that other math-related projects can use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> Gilles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:46:17 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/24/16 2:16 PM, James Carman wrote: >>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on the scope of what the new TLP is going to do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is slightly jumping the gun, as we do have the opportunity in >>>>>>>> forming the new TLP to revisit the initial goals of [math]; but I >>>>>>>> suspect that initially at least we will mostly continue to be a >>>>>>>> general-purpose Java math library, trying to provide IP-clean, >>>>>>>> easily integrated, standard algorithm-based solutions to common math >>>>>>>> programming problems. We have grown to the point where we will >>>>>>>> almost certainly break the distribution up into separate >>>>>>>> "components." No umbrella, but likely multiple release artifacts. >>>>>>>> Similar in some ways to what happened with [http], which is why I >>>>>>>> suggested the same approach to naming. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding picking a mathematician for the name, I don't much like >>>>>>>> that idea as whoever you choose, you end up loading some math area >>>>>>>> and / or cultural bias into the name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Umbrella projects aren't that popular these days, from what I >>>>>>>>> understand. >>>>>>>>> Maybe an homage to a famous mathematician? Apache Newton? Apache >>>>>>>>> Euler? >>>>>>>>> Apache Euclid? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:08 PM Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We need to agree on a name. My own preference is for a boring, >>>>>>>>>> descriptive name, but I am manifestly not a marketing guy, so >>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>> be offended if others want to be more creative. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MathComponents >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> I would be happy with either Math Components or Math. >>> Also I do favor fancy acronyms that read exactly as well known >>> names (23 years ago, the name of my first mathematics library was >>> an acronym that read "Cantor"), it is probably not a good idea for >>> this new TLP. >>> >>> In any case, the project will most probably be de facto an umbrella >>> project as modularizing it seems in the current mood. >>> >>> best regards, >>> Luc >>> >>> >>> Hearkens back to HttpComponents, which has worked pretty well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >
