I do not think we should talk about future plans in the release notes for 3.5.
Gary On Sep 21, 2016 2:58 PM, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <st...@apache.org> wrote: > +1 - could we even mention this in the release notes for 3.5 and 3.6? > > Something like: > > > Commons Lang 3.5.x is planned to be the last minor version series that > > support Java 6; future versions will target Java 7 and Java 8. > > > > Commons Lang 3.6.x is planned to be the last minor version series that > > support Java 7; future versions will target Java 8. > > Then downstream users have a chance to complain to us if they don't > like it :-) (and hopefully put in the effort required) > > On 21 September 2016 at 19:20, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'd like to propose an orderly migration assume BC is preserved: > > > > - Release 3.5 RC as scheduled this weekend > > - Release 3.6 with Java 7 changes > > - Release 3.7 with Java 8 changes > > > > This will give us an opportunity to do some Java 7 work and put that out > > without leaving Java 7-only folks out of the picture. > > > > Gary > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> +1 to be brave and make Lang 3.6 be Java 8, so Lambda helpers can join > >> here. I have a couple of Stream helpers that could also fit in there. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 21 September 2016 at 18:19, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> Jörg Schaible <joerg.schai...@bpm-inspire.com> schrieb am Mi., 21. > Sep. > >> >> 2016 um 16:55 Uhr: > >> >> > >> >> > Jan Matèrne (jhm) wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> We could also have Lamda utility classes in [lang], the classes > >> would > >> >> > >> target Java 8 while the other classes would remain at the Java 6 > >> level > >> >> > >> (this implies compiling the classes separately and recombining > >> them in > >> >> > >> the final jar). > >> >> > > > >> >> > > From a users point of view I would search in commons-lang for > >> language > >> >> > > "extensions". But this kind of building would be ... complex. > >> >> > > >> >> > No, it's a quite simple configuration with Maven. However, you have > >> to be > >> >> > prepared for users running into problems using the resulting jar > file: > >> >> > > >> >> > 1/ in Android, because the Dalvik compiler is not able to convert > the > >> >> > classes targeting Java 8 > >> >> > > >> >> > 2/ in Web/App Servers running with Java 7 or below that scan the > >> >> libraries > >> >> > in the classpath for annotations > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I still think we should use Commons Functor for this kind of > >> functionality. > >> >> Commons Lang originally only hosted extensions to the java.lang > package. > >> >> Over time more and more stuff creeped in (reflect, concurrent, > text). We > >> >> responded to that by creating Commons Text and Commons Functor. I > think > >> >> small focused components are the right direction instead of putting > even > >> >> more stuff into Commons Lang. I hope to have some time to work on > Text > >> and > >> >> Functor after I'm done with the Commons Lang 3.5 release... :) > >> >> > >> > > >> > Once [lang] 3.5 is out, I think we should update [lang] to Java 7. We > >> could > >> > talk about going directly to Java 8. > >> > > >> > Lambdas are a core Java feature, it feel to me like it belongs in > [lang]. > >> > [functor] feels like something that should only be for pre-Java 8. > >> > > >> > Gary > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Benedikt > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers, > >> >> > Jörg > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > >> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >> > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > >> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > >> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > >> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >> > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Stian Soiland-Reyes > >> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > > > > -- > Stian Soiland-Reyes > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >