Hi.

Le mar. 12 févr. 2019 à 17:49, Eitan Adler <li...@eitanadler.com> a écrit :
>
> (please make sure to add me to the CC as the mailing list is presently broken)

I confirm that with either "Reply" or "Reply all", the Gmail web interface
will *not* add your address to the CC. :-(

> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 07:08, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 12:33, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Le lun. 11 févr. 2019 à 11:16, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 09:24, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le lun. 11 févr. 2019 à 10:02, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I checked a few other ASF lists and they all have Reply-To set 
> > > > > > either
> > > > > > to the current list or to dev@ for lists such as commits@ and
> > > > > > notifications@
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a look at that too.
> > > > > But IMO
> > > > >  * "dev" and
> > > > >  * "commits", "notifications", ...
> > > > > are different cases in that the former relays messages that originated
> > > > > from real people while the latter comes from a "bot" and it would make
> > > > > no sense to reply to it.
> > > >
> > > > Yes. That's deliberate, for the reason you state.
> > > > The point is that all the lists have Reply-To set.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don't follow the reasoning; why should the setting be
> > > the same for two different cases?
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > The setting is not the same.
> >
> > They all have Reply-To set, however as I wrote, the actual setting is
> > not the same for all the cases.
>
> There are two different things:
> - having reply-to set
> - having reply-to munged
>
> The former happens by the user. The latter is changed by the mailing
> list.  The right thing to do for commits@ is to have the *bot itself*
> set "reply-to" to the list and for the list to do nothing.
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 13:19, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A message intended for the list that
> > is sent privately, or one intended to be private that is sent to a public
> > list?]
>
> Not exactly. In the broken case, public messages also run the risk of
> getting ignored. This is because replies don't go to the user and thus
> look like ordinary messages. As an example: I get an average of 200
> messages per day from public mailing lists. Unless a message is marked
> as "to me" or "I participated" it is much more likely to be missed.
>
> The tradeoffs are:
>
> Non-broken Pros:
> - Doesn't break the expectation of "reply" vs "reply all"
> - Private messages are not likely to go a public mailing list
> - No need to manually add people to CC
> - Messages are less likely to be lost to the author
> - Following internet standards

IMHO, that should be the primary reference...

> - Similar to other open source projects

And this too.

Gilles

> Cons:
> - Its possible to accidentally sent a private reply which will need to
> be redirected to the mailing list.
>
>
> Broken Pros:
> - It takes slightly more work to send a private reply which will need
> to be redirected to the mailing list.
>
>
>
> --
> Eitan Adler
>

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