> On 14-02-2015, at 14:03, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
> <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> Louis, for independent data see 
> http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x
> 
> This isn't about the ASF but about foundations in general.
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone

Thanks Ross. I have not gone over the documents you cite; I used to use a 
different set, but that was then…./ Marking the value of community has always 
been difficult, as we all know. Especially when the need is to put it in terms 
that satisfy bean counters. (Even Santa Bitergia may not help us.)


louis
> ________________________________
> From: Louis Suárez-Potts<mailto:lui...@gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks
> 
> 
>> On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch <n...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>> There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we 
>>> probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do some 
>>> new stuff along the lines of:
>>> 
>>> How is the ASF different from other foundations?
>>> Why should I bring my project to Apache?
>>> How can I get paid to work on Apache projects?
>>> How do I build a business around apache software?
>>> Why doesn't the ASF pay for software development?
>>> Why, after 15 years, do people see the ASF as a desirable place to take 
>>> software?
>>> Why does the ASF have a reputation for bureaucracy amongst the younger 
>>> GitHub crowd?
>>> Just what rules are immutable in the ASF?
>> 
>> Looks a great list to me!
>> 
>> My only comment is that these look like the titles of all the sessions from 
>> a Community Track[1], rather than the parts of an abstract for just one 
>> talk. Is that what you had in mind? Or do you think we can really fit all of 
>> that into a single session?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> [1] Or even a whole conference! Say, called something like Transfer
>>   Summit? ;-)
> 
> are there easily available data showing the benefits of plunking a project in 
> Apache? One could also use, I’d imagine, other measures of ecosystem 
> robustness. Basically, some measure or set thereof that illustrates the 
> comparative benefit of Apache—?
> 
> Louis
> 

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