Ross,

How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable 
needs to maintain English as the language of apache with the need to allow 
non-English speaking Chinese speakers to participate?

I can't.  

To the extent that it is possible, I encourage English capable people from 
china to participate in projects like singa, Zeppelin and kylin (all Asian 
origin projects at apache). 

That satisfies part of the need. 

There is also a serious need for projects that conduct themselves in Chinese. 
(There are also likely other languages where this need arises)

Such groups cannot validly be overseen by a non-Chinese speaking board.  

How is a new Chinese speaking organization anything not important? 

I don't suggest that apache create such a beast. I would love it if apache 
veterans help with it.  If I can help, I will, but I am handicapped by my 
linguistic ignorance. As it is often said, those with the itch must do the 
scratching. 

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> On Nov 21, 2015, at 18:43, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not in favor of a separate China org. I am 100% in favor of helping you 
> and your Chinese colleagues right here and through cultural exchanges like 
> those that I talked about at ApacheCon and you have facilitated.

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