Love that quadrant quote. Sooooo true. On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 18:42 Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/26/18 8:09 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: > > Hi, > > > > a couple weeks ago I was invited to give a talk on the Apache Way at > > Dataworks Summit here in Berlin mid-April. > > > > I would love to get a second pair of eyes check the stuff I've put > together > > so I didn't include any non-sense nor forgot anything vital. > > > > In line with Yonik's law of patches posting links to the early draft of > the > > slide deck here: > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e-ZcdMftdaf3j55WKAEWkWEbl0Z9UQBn/view?usp=sharing > > (google docs fails to display this correctly) > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/15lbcRt1v7vAW0eLEjYCddRFmL1A59bph/view?usp=sharing > > (pdf) > > > > For some of the content, I have asked for permission to use it but not > > received feedback (asked like two minutes ago). Some of the content is > > still missing. I'll likely need to scratch some of the content to stay > > withing the allocated 40min. > > > > Make sure to check the notes in addition to the slides - otherwise for > the > > most part you'll end up seeing pretty pictures but guessing about the > > intention ;) > > Did you mean to share the googlodoc itself? That would show the > notes, IIRC the way that works. [1] > > Based on the pdf, this looks great to me, though I suspect its going > to come down to what you actually say in the "how it works" parts. > > I have three general comments, which you would probably cover. > > 1. Something did not sit quite right with me saying "retain users" > all the time. What is important is to engage them and turn them > into contributors. You say that later, but I think a mistake > some OSS projects make is focusing too much on making their > project "popular" and not enough about making it interesting. > 2. I like the Yonik quote. It reminds me of something Stefano > Mazocchi said years ago about code bases showing up in the > Incubator. He said if you imagine an 2-dimensional grid with > quality of code on one axis and quality of ideas on another, the > quadrant where you find the best stuff is good ideas and bad > code. Good ideas expressed in obviously lacking code are like > great fuel. > 3. When you talk about helping getting people started, a good key > point to make is how important it is to make it easy for people > to get involved and get started. You mention making tasks > visible, etc and of course transparency, but little things like > making it easy to build the software are important too. It's no > accident that Ant and Maven were born at Apache. > > Phil > > > [1] I was able to work collaboratively with Sally on a presentation > I gave last year using Googledocs and it worked OK. You may find > some of the content useful. It is here: > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q4l-To6DBgNqquk1pUei4Ohud0PQVtyULCQKrPTae_Y/edit?usp=sharing > A few years back, I had more fun just using beamer / Latex with > sources in github. That was a technical talk and there was no fancy > layout stuff; but it was really nice to just take PRs on the preso. > The sources are here: > https://github.com/psteitz/apachecon-2015-commons-math. > > > > Thanks, > > Isabel > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >