Love that quadrant quote.  Sooooo true.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, 18:42 Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/26/18 8:09 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > a couple weeks ago I was invited to give a talk on the Apache Way at
> > Dataworks Summit here in Berlin mid-April.
> >
> > I would love to get a second pair of eyes check the stuff I've put
> together
> > so I didn't include any non-sense nor forgot anything vital.
> >
> > In line with Yonik's law of patches posting links to the early draft of
> the
> > slide deck here:
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e-ZcdMftdaf3j55WKAEWkWEbl0Z9UQBn/view?usp=sharing
> >  (google docs fails to display this correctly)
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/15lbcRt1v7vAW0eLEjYCddRFmL1A59bph/view?usp=sharing
> > (pdf)
> >
> > For some of the content, I have asked for permission to use it but not
> > received feedback (asked like two minutes ago). Some of the content is
> > still missing. I'll likely need to scratch some of the content to stay
> > withing the allocated 40min.
> >
> > Make sure to check the notes in addition to the slides - otherwise for
> the
> > most part you'll end up seeing pretty pictures but guessing about the
> > intention ;)
>
> Did you mean to share the googlodoc itself?  That would show the
> notes, IIRC the way that works. [1]
>
> Based on the pdf, this looks great to me, though I suspect its going
> to come down to what you actually say in the "how it works" parts.
>
> I have three general comments, which you would probably cover.
>
>  1. Something did not sit quite right with me saying "retain users"
>     all the time.  What is important is to engage them and turn them
>     into contributors.  You say that later, but I think a mistake
>     some OSS projects make is focusing too much on making their
>     project "popular" and not enough about making it interesting.
>  2. I like the Yonik quote.  It reminds me of something Stefano
>     Mazocchi said years ago about code bases showing up in the
>     Incubator.  He said if you imagine an 2-dimensional grid with
>     quality of code on one axis and quality of ideas on another, the
>     quadrant where you find the best stuff is good ideas and bad
>     code.  Good ideas expressed in obviously lacking code are like
>     great fuel.
>  3. When you talk about helping getting people started, a good key
>     point to make is how important it is to make it easy for people
>     to get involved and get started.  You mention making tasks
>     visible, etc and of course transparency, but little things like
>     making it easy to build the software are important too.  It's no
>     accident that Ant and Maven were born at Apache.
>
> Phil
>
>
> [1] I was able to work collaboratively with Sally on a presentation
> I gave last year using Googledocs and it worked OK.   You may find
> some of the content useful.  It is here:
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q4l-To6DBgNqquk1pUei4Ohud0PQVtyULCQKrPTae_Y/edit?usp=sharing
> A few years back, I had more fun just using beamer / Latex with
> sources in github.  That was a technical talk and there was no fancy
> layout stuff; but it was really nice to just take PRs on the preso.
> The sources are here:
> https://github.com/psteitz/apachecon-2015-commons-math.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Isabel
> >
>
>
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