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في الاثنين، ١٧ ديسمبر، ٢٠١٨ ٠٨:٣١، كتب Christofer Dutz <
christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for the update :-)
>
> I thought you were working on the Specs for S7 communication and the
> MindSphere licensing issues, which were preventing me from implementing any
> support for the Siemens offering in the projects I'm involved in.
>
> Didn't know you were also digging into an ASF MindSphere account. But I
> guess multiple beaks picking might help... and I was told on multiple
> occasions (MindSphere Community Meetup and SPS IPC Drives) that it should
> generally be possible for the ASF to be treated as a research or
> educational entity as we indeed don't make money with our involvement.
>
> Usually the first response was: "But you can use the way cheaper basic
> profile do develop your stuff."
> I guess me pretty bluntly telling them that I will not pay any amount of
> money and then invest my free time for building something I give to Siemens
> as a present, which in turn would be quite a benefit for Siemens. I usually
> told them, if they want to be invited to the open-source party, they
> shouldn't charge an entrance fee.
>
> Also I was told that there is no automatic process of accepting/denying
> the application for an academic account and that indeed Apache does sound
> like a good candidate. Also I guess Siemens has more to win than to loose
> by giving us access.
>
> So I guess I'll work with Roman in maybe getting the ASF an account, and
> hope that your work might help with that little license issue there still
> is. So as soon as that's dealt with, we can start working.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 16.12.18, 22:02 schrieb "Michael Osipov" <micha...@apache.org>:
>
>     Am 2018-12-13 um 09:28 schrieb Christofer Dutz:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > currently the production industry is all about “industry 4.0” and
> this mainly covers topics like: Cloud, BigData, Machine Learning … while we
> know that Apache has a lot to offer in that regard.
>     > Still Siemens is doing a lot in promoting their MindSphere platform
> and are gaining some traction in the industry.
>     >
>     > Especially in the IoT projects of Apache it would be great to be
> able to talk to that platform the same way we can with Azure, Google, AWS,
> … unfortunately an insanely expensive membership is needed.
>     >
>     > In all of my recent meetings with Siemens, I always underlined that
> I would love to support MindSphere, but I and I bet most others here at
> Apache are definitely not going to pay 10k€/year in order to develop
> software for Siemens in my free time. Now after a lot of constant nagging
> on different occasions, I was told that even if Apache is not a research or
> academic institiution, they would be willing to grant the ASF the same
> status. However someone with the formal capacity to do so would have to
> fill out the form.
>     >
>     > So my question is: Would there be an interest in this? And who
> should I involve in this?
>
>     Christofer,
>
>     I did not forget you. I am still on it. Actually on both -- S7 spec
> and
>     MindSphere legal. I do have a contact now from Digital Factory who can
>     provide sufficient information for S7. I went to Nuremberg on Wed/Thu
>     for the MindSphere stuff, but unfortunately my intermediate contact
> has
>     got sick. As far as I remember our last discussion with the MindSphere
>     board, they did not fully understand our rationale. I'll try to setup
> a
>     Circuit meeting with me, her (intermediate), them and you. I'll hand
>     over the mic to you and you can speak your mind.
>
>     Btw, I do have now an admin tenant access to the IoT Value Plan and
> was
>     happily able to simulate a toilet flush with JMeter and the Time
> Series API.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Michael
>
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