Yes, the way that conversation unfolded was regretable, muddled, and misleading. I apologize for how that all unfolded.
Clearer policies, and documentation, of what kinds of events we are able to support, and exactly how we can support them, are a must going forward. And that's on me. Regarding JBCNConf, I have some tweets scheduled, and will update that as soon as we have a published schedule. I will look to you for help identifying which talks we want to highlight. Thanks. On 2/12/19 4:10 AM, Ignasi Barrera wrote: > Please, s/Ignaci/Ignasi/ > > I've been talking to Jonathan too. As a not-for-profit event, they really > wanted to have some open source community presence there, and they came up > with this new proposal to see if that would make sense for Apache. > > Just to be clear, I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm unhappy with your > declining to put money into this event. I fully understand the reasons and > I'm the kind of person that understands a no. I was disappointed by how the > conversations here, inside the ASF, were broken and became a real blocker > to shaping a proper collaboration plan. But that doesn't mean I'm mad at > anyone or that I take things personally. I am (and will be) always open to > talk to anyone so please, don't project that image of me, especially on a > public list. > > This said, I felt bad about the poor communication experience we initially > delivered to them, and I offered to join their volunteer group and give a > hand on the organization of the event, so although I will be there, I can't > commit to staffing the booth full-time. I'll be more than happy to help > with the logistics, setting it up (I also still have some stickers and a > feather rollout, if we are allowed to use it), and being there at the booth > when time allows, but I can't commit to staffing it full-time. > > Regarding Twitter, I'd suggest we promote any talk that is about an Apache > project, even if the speaker is not an Apache contributor. The event will > have high-profile speakers and lots of Java Champions, and IMO having > Apache related talks there is a great way to put the projects on the radar > of cool and relevant technologies today (my $0.02 with this regard). > > > You can count on my help, taking into account the mentioned limitations. > > > I. > > > P.S. I also submitted a talk, although it is not related to Apache > > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > >> If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find >> someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know >> he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put >> money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him >> about it. >> >> On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>> That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the >>> information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared >>> booth? >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin A. McGrail >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content >>>> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that >>>> content. >>>> >>>> --Rich >>>> >>>> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>>>> Hi Sharan, >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/ >>>>> >>>>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner. >>>>> >>>>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for >>>> every >>>>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community >>>> partner >>>>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is >> this >>>>> something the ASF can do? >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> KAM >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kevin A. McGrail >>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com >>>> http://rcbowen.com/ >>>> @rbowen >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com >> http://rcbowen.com/ >> @rbowen >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >> > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
