Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish today.
Many thanks, Sally - - - Vice President Sponsor Relations The Apache Software Foundation Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote: > Thank you, Etienne. > > I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live. > > Best, > Sally > > - - - > Vice President Sponsor Relations > The Apache Software Foundation > > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >> Hi Sally, >> >> Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can you >> publish it on the Success at Apache blog ? >> >> A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com >> >> Thanks >> >> Best >> >> Etienne Chauchot >> >> >> >> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>> Hi Joe, >>> >>> Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is. >>> >>> Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions ! >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Etienne >>> >>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry for >>>> the delay, just got buried in my inbox. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> jzb >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> Thank you, Etienne. >>>>> >>>>> Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Sally >>>>> >>>>> - - - >>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>>> >>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>>>>> Hi Sally, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can review >>>>>> my article and post it on Success at Apache blog ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Best >>>>>> >>>>>> Etienne >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article draft you >>>>>>> wanted that I sent last week ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need to >>>>>>>> discuss the content of this article. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the Success at >>>>>>>> Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and tell >>>>>>>>> me if I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my personnal blog >>>>>>>>> also (through a link to the ASF) . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 🕥 7 min. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Introducion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been working in software engineering for more than 15 >>>>>>>>> years. I've always contributed to Open Source software as a user or a >>>>>>>>> coder. But I've been contributing to ASF >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> projects such as Apache Flink >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>> Apache Beam >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> or Apache Spark >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> for nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I find *the >>>>>>>>> Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate on software >>>>>>>>> engineering. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of >>>>>>>>> good content about that already. I will rather link to the official >>>>>>>>> Apache documentation >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>> I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it >>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache Way >>>>>>>>> as I see them. Of course, every Apache community is different, but >>>>>>>>> what I wanted to emphasize is that applying the Apache Way by the >>>>>>>>> book could lead to what I'd call a "perfect society" even if this >>>>>>>>> word seems a bit naive and over optimistic or even utopian. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A perfect society >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities behave >>>>>>>>> like a sort of perfect society: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The community is governed by merit: everything is about what you >>>>>>>>> do inside the community and at some point your efforts are noted and >>>>>>>>> you get credit for your work by obtaining more rights (direct access >>>>>>>>> to the project repositories, election of committers >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and voting >>>>>>>>> for the best one leads to the best possible state of the project in >>>>>>>>> the end. The best idea always wins in the long term. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The software is not driven by money: no private concerns should >>>>>>>>> take over. When the incubation process is well advanced, before >>>>>>>>> graduation, the ASF bord >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users and >>>>>>>>> developers communities are big enough), healthy and also not owned by >>>>>>>>> a single company and its private financial considerations. This >>>>>>>>> ensures best decisions for the software itself but also a long term >>>>>>>>> maintenance of the software. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered >>>>>>>>> equal no matter your personal background, your education, ethnic or >>>>>>>>> nationality, every contribution is good to take. Community members >>>>>>>>> recognize that people skills may be different and complementary to >>>>>>>>> theirs. So contributions might come from anyone, from anywhere and in >>>>>>>>> any form (blog post, documentation, talk, code, website...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents to >>>>>>>>> join their forces. Be welcoming is always very important to build and >>>>>>>>> grow a community. The Open Source community is also a great place for >>>>>>>>> people to grow. The way people collaborate is generally by mentoring. >>>>>>>>> Experienced contributors help new comers or experts share their >>>>>>>>> thoughts with others. It is really also a good way for mentors to >>>>>>>>> share their passion and inspire mentorees. Mentoring is even in the >>>>>>>>> DNA of the ASF starting with the incubator >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> when the podling community profits from the experience and advice of >>>>>>>>> a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become a top level project >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but only >>>>>>>>> technical leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated and I must >>>>>>>>> say that it is the best form of motivation ever! Decision making is >>>>>>>>> both simple and efficient: there is no solely decision, feedback is >>>>>>>>> always very important. People are willing to share their thoughts and >>>>>>>>> solve the problems together. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Community members are always benevolent: they are always willing >>>>>>>>> to share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, accept change >>>>>>>>> requests or bug tickets. People are wiling to accept criticism >>>>>>>>> without being defensive. The master word is transparency. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Last but not least, people behave friendly: public communication >>>>>>>>> (one of the ASF master words is "what did not happen publicly never >>>>>>>>> happened") forces people to communicate in a positive way: for >>>>>>>>> example by asking questions or suggesting rather than affirming or >>>>>>>>> asking for thoughts rather than disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source >>>>>>>>> contributor always tries to put himself in the other person's shoes, >>>>>>>>> trying to not hurt his feelings and to not demotivate him. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the way we >>>>>>>>> all would like people and society in >>>>>>>>> general to behave, no ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Daily life >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some years of >>>>>>>>> applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt almost like >>>>>>>>> a religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, you start applying it to >>>>>>>>> daily life outside of work. It becomes your standard way of behaving >>>>>>>>> in society: meritocracy becomes a second nature, for example you >>>>>>>>> reward your home builders with gifts and public credit because they >>>>>>>>> did a good job, you reward your kids for good school work etc... You >>>>>>>>> also start to give time to others and share your knowledge, mentoring >>>>>>>>> becomes a second nature. Another big thing which is very visible is >>>>>>>>> that you now always take good care to give positive communication, >>>>>>>>> leading to positive and constructive thinking. Positivism also >>>>>>>>> becomes a second nature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit never >>>>>>>>> expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or become a PMC >>>>>>>>> member >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> or even an ASF member >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>> it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs for >>>>>>>>> your whole career. This is an incredible credit and a tremendous >>>>>>>>> trust mark ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can be a bit challenging >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to temper >>>>>>>>> a bit: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I felt >>>>>>>>> intimidated. Community members are generally very senior level and >>>>>>>>> very high skilled developers. But, remember what is written above: >>>>>>>>> every contribution is good to take. And, with time and mentoring, >>>>>>>>> everyone deserves his place inside the community. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to find >>>>>>>>> where to start: some projects are old enough to have a large >>>>>>>>> community so the amount of code is pretty high. But here again >>>>>>>>> mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you pointers on hot >>>>>>>>> topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need maintenance. And >>>>>>>>> within time, you'll be recognized as an expert in a given area and >>>>>>>>> the exciting subjects will come to you. And if you feel like you want >>>>>>>>> to join a smaller community try joining a project which is still in >>>>>>>>> the incubator >>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>> phase ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Conclusion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the envy to >>>>>>>>> join a Open Source community. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and your views ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, after >>>>>>>>>> review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success at Apache" and >>>>>>>>>> I can definitely link to the ASF blog post in my personal blog so >>>>>>>>>> that there is only one publishing place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers to be >>>>>>>>>> informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant. So I propose >>>>>>>>>> that we just link an article about the Apache Way at the beginning >>>>>>>>>> of my article. Do you have a good link to send me ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the article, >>>>>>>>>> that was indeed the whole point of the article ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WDYT ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Etienne. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first go-around. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally we'd >>>>>>>>>>> post in one place. If not we can always promote it on Twitter and >>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from describing >>>>>>>>>>> "The Apache Way" and focus on your experience instead. The Apache >>>>>>>>>>> Way has been covered, at length, already. I'd focus on what your >>>>>>>>>>> success looks like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success would be >>>>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jzb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>> <echauc...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bertrand! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog post and >>>>>>>>>>>> send a >>>>>>>>>>>> link here. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>> > <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing the blog >>>>>>>>>>>> >> post ? ... >>>>>>>>>>>> > I don't have decision power on what's published in "Success at >>>>>>>>>>>> > Apache" >>>>>>>>>>>> > but I'd say go for it! >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, and if >>>>>>>>>>>> > they're >>>>>>>>>>>> > not convinced there's lots of other places where you can post. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > -Bertrand >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>>>>>>>>> j...@apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>> j...@apache.org