Op zo 14 mei 2023 om 13:23 schreef sebb <seb...@gmail.com>:

> On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 02:03, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure. I can see the value of such a redirect. What I don't see is the
> value
> > of menu nav link to that content , expressly calling it out, and then
> > saying "never mind, we don't have that." Seems misleading.
>
> The point is, there used to be such a page.
> If we decide to stop providing that information, I think it is polite
> to tell people that the specific page no longer exists.
>

I just added a redirect from /mentoringprogramme.html to /mentoring/
See
https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/commit/0e545c51e9dac344a9e71a3df52dfd41498d99b2

This at least doesn't return a 404 to our users.


> Also we should not expect other sites to adjust their links if we
> change our pages, even if we happen to have access to update the other
> site's pages.
>
> We have to assume that some people will use the original URL; we
> should not tell them to "go away" with a 404.
>
> > But, sure, I
> > won't get in the way of folks doing that if that's what you thinks
> > makes sense.
>
> I didn't break the links.
>
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023, 19:12 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 22:23, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Linking to a mentoring program that doesn't exist doesn't seem like a
> > > > service to anyone.
> > >
> > > The redirect can go to a page that explains that the mentoring program
> > > has been closed, and suggest some alternatives.
> > >
> > > For example, https://community.apache.org/mentoring/
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 11, 2023, 01:35 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 04:03, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 10, 2023, 05:59 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 11:23, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 17:09, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detail.
> > > > > > > > > If that was previously a valid URL, then I think the proper
> > > fix is
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > add a redirect to the comdev site.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm afraid the original page was deleted:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/commit/9172c73871f20f8af5bc02dbb5066a93345c0761
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very useful, thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In which case it would be good to try and add redirects for
> all the
> > > > > > > pages deleted in that commit.
> > > > > > > Starting with the one we know is still being used ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd rather remove that menu link and/or point it to the site
> front
> > > page.
> > > > > > I'll do that tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, please don’t.
> > > > >
> > > > > There may be other instances of the same link, and some may be in
> > > > > sites over which the ASF has no control.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe site owners have a duty to maintain URLs where possible.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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