Hi Mark,

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 11:00, Mark J. Cox <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Chris!  As Arnout wrote, we set up the public security-discuss list and 
> wiki to be such a working group to capture and share some best practices 
> among our projects.  It was the follow-up from some of the good ideas 
> captured after the White House meetings following on from log4shell.  Then, 
> anything that we want to make a requirement, rather than a recommended 
> practice, would feed back into the security committee to add into our 
> existing policies. I believe that's the right place for the things you're 
> suggesting.
>
> The list hasn't had a lot of traction, and many of the ideas and thoughts on 
> the wiki didn't get followed up on as it didn't get a lot of interest (mostly 
> lacking volunteers wanting to spend the time on it).  So it would be great to 
> get some more feedback, input, and leadership from you there.

As you remarked the list doesn't have a lot of traction and I didn't
see any of the subjects that were discussed there being pursued
further.

Last week, together with some members of the Logging PMC and Security
Team, I had a video meeting with two security experts regarding the
quality of our SBOMs (not very high) and how to improve it and then
extend their usage in the ASF. I will share my conclusions about the
meeting on `security-discuss@community` once I get around all the
subjects that were discussed, but I found the overall experience of a
(virtual) face-to-face meeting more productive that long discussions
on `security-discuss@community`.

Maybe we should have a regular Security Round Table help on a video
conference platform. This would allow us:

* to communicate with the Security Team more directly,
* to think about security more regularly (there is a meeting, I need
to prepare),
* to have some short meeting notes that show us how fast (or slowly)
security awareness in the ASF is growing.

What do you think?

Piotr

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