I like the idea of a video call.

Gary

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 8:07 AM Piotr P. Karwasz <piotr.karw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 11:00, Mark J. Cox <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Chris!  As Arnout wrote, we set up the public security-discuss list
> and wiki to be such a working group to capture and share some best
> practices among our projects.  It was the follow-up from some of the good
> ideas captured after the White House meetings following on from log4shell.
> Then, anything that we want to make a requirement, rather than a
> recommended practice, would feed back into the security committee to add
> into our existing policies. I believe that's the right place for the things
> you're suggesting.
> >
> > The list hasn't had a lot of traction, and many of the ideas and
> thoughts on the wiki didn't get followed up on as it didn't get a lot of
> interest (mostly lacking volunteers wanting to spend the time on it).  So
> it would be great to get some more feedback, input, and leadership from you
> there.
>
> As you remarked the list doesn't have a lot of traction and I didn't
> see any of the subjects that were discussed there being pursued
> further.
>
> Last week, together with some members of the Logging PMC and Security
> Team, I had a video meeting with two security experts regarding the
> quality of our SBOMs (not very high) and how to improve it and then
> extend their usage in the ASF. I will share my conclusions about the
> meeting on `security-discuss@community` once I get around all the
> subjects that were discussed, but I found the overall experience of a
> (virtual) face-to-face meeting more productive that long discussions
> on `security-discuss@community`.
>
> Maybe we should have a regular Security Round Table help on a video
> conference platform. This would allow us:
>
> * to communicate with the Security Team more directly,
> * to think about security more regularly (there is a meeting, I need
> to prepare),
> * to have some short meeting notes that show us how fast (or slowly)
> security awareness in the ASF is growing.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Piotr
>
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