On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 at 08:07, Hervé Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote: > > Le lundi 9 juin 2025, 00:15:30 CEST sebb a écrit : > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 at 22:19, Hervé Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote: > > > you're right, I don't remember why it made sense to list these more than > > > 10 > > > years ago: it was there in the initial import > > > https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/?view=revision&revision=1651762 > > > > > > it seems it's because it started by counting PMC chairs, with notions of > > > TLP and sub-projects... > > > > > > nowadays it's more noise than anything on this p.a.o site > > > and we have much clearer description of these special offices at > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/leadership > > > > > > +1 to drop this note about the 5 special committees > > > > Done. > thank you > > > > > > on 300+, nobody knows the real number > > > we need to work around this fact > > > > We could just say: > > > > "There are hundreds of open source initiatives at the ASF" > yes, good idea > > > > > > "208 committees managing 295 projects" > > > we can rephrase to "managing more than 295 projects" and link to the > > > projects.html page? > > > > > > I'd really love to have index page staying out of technicalities like > > > barbarian DOAP term: projects.html page is there to go more in depth > > > > > > to me, index requires to be human oriented > > > > It also needs to be accurate regarding the completeness of the data. > you know that accurate on projects list is impossible, unless something huge > happens (ATR may be that "huge thing"...) > > instead of "accurate", I'd say "honest", "transparent" > and for sure promote improvement
I meant we need to be accurate in what we write about the *completeness* of the data. That is very different from accuracy of the data itself, which we know is unlikely ever to be 100% accurate, even if all PMCs have provided DOAPs. What we do know is that a substantial proportion of PMCs have not provided DOAPs. That is not clear from the current front page, indeed the opposite is implied. Whatever you choose to call it, at present the wording is not fully transparent, honest or accurate. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Hervé > > > > > > Le dimanche 8 juin 2025, 17:58:12 CEST sebb a écrit : > > > > 5 special committees are currently included under "open source > > > > initiatives". > > > > > > > > I'm not sure these can be classed as such (and they are not included > > > > in the total). > > > > I think they should just be dropped: do they play any part in the rest > > > > of the site? > > > > > > > > Also, the 300+ number looks wrong, because the number of 'missing' > > > > DOAPs is not shown. > > > > If we are going to include these, then the number should be shown. > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
