I see, we don't have the same vocabulary but the same intent https://projects.apache.org/ looks much more accurate now
Le lundi 9 juin 2025, 11:16:43 CEST sebb a écrit : > On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 at 08:07, Hervé Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote: > > Le lundi 9 juin 2025, 00:15:30 CEST sebb a écrit : > > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 at 22:19, Hervé Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > you're right, I don't remember why it made sense to list these more > > > > than > > > > 10 > > > > years ago: it was there in the initial import > > > > https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/?view=revision&revision=1651762 > > > > > > > > it seems it's because it started by counting PMC chairs, with notions > > > > of > > > > TLP and sub-projects... > > > > > > > > nowadays it's more noise than anything on this p.a.o site > > > > and we have much clearer description of these special offices at > > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/leadership > > > > > > > > +1 to drop this note about the 5 special committees > > > > > > Done. > > > > thank you > > > > > > on 300+, nobody knows the real number > > > > we need to work around this fact > > > > > > We could just say: > > > > > > "There are hundreds of open source initiatives at the ASF" > > > > yes, good idea > > > > > > "208 committees managing 295 projects" > > > > we can rephrase to "managing more than 295 projects" and link to the > > > > projects.html page? > > > > > > > > I'd really love to have index page staying out of technicalities like > > > > barbarian DOAP term: projects.html page is there to go more in depth > > > > > > > > to me, index requires to be human oriented > > > > > > It also needs to be accurate regarding the completeness of the data. > > > > you know that accurate on projects list is impossible, unless something > > huge happens (ATR may be that "huge thing"...) > > > > instead of "accurate", I'd say "honest", "transparent" > > and for sure promote improvement > > I meant we need to be accurate in what we write about the > *completeness* of the data. > That is very different from accuracy of the data itself, which we know > is unlikely ever to be 100% accurate, even if all PMCs have provided > DOAPs. > What we do know is that a substantial proportion of PMCs have not > provided DOAPs. > That is not clear from the current front page, indeed the opposite is > implied. > > Whatever you choose to call it, at present the wording is not fully > transparent, honest or accurate. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Hervé > > > > > > > > Le dimanche 8 juin 2025, 17:58:12 CEST sebb a écrit : > > > > > 5 special committees are currently included under "open source > > > > > initiatives". > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure these can be classed as such (and they are not included > > > > > in the total). > > > > > I think they should just be dropped: do they play any part in the > > > > > rest > > > > > of the site? > > > > > > > > > > Also, the 300+ number looks wrong, because the number of 'missing' > > > > > DOAPs is not shown. > > > > > If we are going to include these, then the number should be shown. > > > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
