Knowing the implication of your changes is pretty critical.
IMHO everyone who commits to the generic portions of cordova-js should be
prepared to at least smoke test in WP7or8, Android, iOS, and BB.  Or at a
bare minimum have extreme confidence that your change will not affect them.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I agree with your sentiments, but I think it's impractical in practice. We
> have ~11 platforms, and any change to common js affects them all.
>
> In this case, I would need to learn how to build & run on webos, tizen, wp7
> and windowphone, as well as buying the required hardware to do so. A tall
> order for some refactoring changes.
>
> If the "can you guys test my changes" answer is "no", then it'd be great to
> hear a "no" instead of 8 days of silence. That said, I think we'd be able
> to move faster if we just took some time to review/test each others'
> changes when necessary. We do this when processing pull requests from
> external devs, so why not do this for each other?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Michael Brooks <mich...@michaelbrooks.ca
> >wrote:
>
> > Agreed. Please take responsibility and test your code on devices (ideally
> > not simulators).
> >
> > If your change impacts multiple platforms, have it tested on those before
> > pushing to master.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew did you test it on a device? Don't think "hey guys can you test
> my
> > > changes" is a sustainable approach
> > >
> > > On 2/20/13 12:19 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Okay, I've interpreted the silence as a "just go ahead and merge it
> and
> > > >people will complain if it's broken".
> > > >
> > > >Seeing as we've now cut the next branch, I figured it was a good time
> to
> > > >merge these remaining changes in. So, I did. Please let me know if
> > symbols
> > > >aren't working.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've just merged in most of the changes for this (CB-2227). Again,
> the
> > > >> goal here was to move all plugin-specific logic out of common files.
> > > >>It's
> > > >> not the end-game solution, but a step in the right direction.
> > > >>
> > > >> There are still some changes left on the symbolmapping branch that
> > > >>affect
> > > >> windows & webos. If there's someone who knows how, it would be great
> > if
> > > >>you
> > > >> could try merging in the branch and ensure mobile-spec is still
> > working
> > > >> with the changes. If so, these changes can also be merged into
> master.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Andrew Grieve
> > > >><agri...@chromium.org>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> This is now finished in the branch. There is now *no* plugin logic
> > left
> > > >>> in common.js, nor in any platform.js files.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-js.git;a=shortlog;h=re
> > > >>>fs/heads/symbolmapping
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is one exception, and that's things like the "app" plugin,
> > where
> > > >>> it's not really a plugin that a platform can live without.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Changes of interest:
> > > >>> 1. In tests, I've added helpers for stubbing out modules & for
> > stubbing
> > > >>> out properties. I used this to be able to undo symbol mapping
> within
> > > >>>tests.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> var propertyreplacer = require('cordova/propertyreplacer');
> > > >>> propertyreplacer.stub(platform, 'id', 'test');
> > > >>>
> > > >>> var modulereplacer = require('cordova/modulereplacer');
> > > >>> modulereplacer.replace('cordova/platform', {id:'test',
> > > >>> initialize:createSpy()});
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2. Loading plugins by name (aka, looping through all defined
> modules
> > > >>>and
> > > >>> loading the ones that have names that match a pattern).
> > > >>> A) "symbols" Modules that have the name "symbols" are loaded to
> > define
> > > >>> their plugin's module->JS symbol mappings
> (merges/clobbers/defaults).
> > > >>>On
> > > >>> Blackberry, sub-platform symbol files are called "bbsymbols".
> > > >>> B) "plugininit" Modules that have the name "plugininit" are loaded
> to
> > > >>> perform any custom start-up logic.
> > > >>> C) "*Proxy" On Windows8, modules that end with "Proxy" are loaded
> on
> > > >>> start-up.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I don't love the looping-through-module-names approach, but thought
> > it
> > > >>> was a good initial solution while we talk about better ideas. To do
> > > >>>this, I
> > > >>> had to make the moduleMap exported, which it wasn't before.
> Certainly
> > > >>> interested to hear if this is a really bad idea, and what
> > alternatives
> > > >>>we
> > > >>> could use going forward.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Grieve
> > > >>><agri...@chromium.org>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Pushed up the change with the File plugin being registered in this
> > new
> > > >>>> way. Please let me know if you have concerns about it, since the
> > next
> > > >>>>step
> > > >>>> is moving over other plugin APIs, which is boring work :P.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Also, let's move any discussion into the JIRA issue:
> > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-2227
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Andrew Grieve
> > > >>>><agri...@chromium.org>wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Branch started!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I've completed steps 1 & 2.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-js.git;a=shortlog;h=
> > > >>>>>refs/heads/symbolmapping
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> This all seems reasonable. Shall we start a branch?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 1/15/13 2:47 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@google.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> >Sorry to dump another large email on the list, but I'm hoping
> > this
> > > >>>>>> one is
> > > >>>>>> >at least less controversial :). I wrote up a plan for moving
> > > >>>>>> >module->symbol
> > > >>>>>> >mapping out of common.js & platform.js and into individual
> > plugins.
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >If you have feedback/comments, let me know.
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >* Goals:
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   - Change from listing module->symbol mapping within
> common.js
> > &
> > > >>>>>> >   platform.js, to listing this within the plugins themselves.
> > > >>>>>> >   - Support apps that don't want us to clobber global symbols.
> > > >>>>>> >      - aka, allow module->symbol mapping to be turned off
> > > >>>>>> >   - Allow retrieval of clobbered globals
> > > >>>>>> >      - Currently modules save it themselves when they are
> loaded
> > > >>>>>> >      - This won't work (reliably) for saving references to
> > globals
> > > >>>>>> >      overridden by other modules
> > > >>>>>> >      - This gets in the way of the idea of lazy-loading
> modules
> > > >>>>>>via
> > > >>>>>> >getters
> > > >>>>>> >   - Support the use of other module loaders
> > > >>>>>> >      - So... don't do crazy things at require() time.
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >Requirements:
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   - Plugins must be able to declare dependencies
> > > >>>>>> >   - Plugins must be able to delay onDeviceReady()
> > > >>>>>> >   - Plugins must be able to run code to initialize
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >Implementation modulemapper.js:
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   - clobbers(...)
> > > >>>>>> >   - merges(...)
> > > >>>>>> >   - defaults(...)
> > > >>>>>> >   - mapModules(wnd)
> > > >>>>>> >   - getOriginalSymbol('FileSystem')
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >Start-up flow:
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   1. Parse all modules
> > > >>>>>> >   2. common-bootstrap:
> > > >>>>>> >      1. Loads list of modules named "cordova.*/symbols"
> > > >>>>>> >      2. Run modulemapper.mapModules(window);
> > > >>>>>> >      3. Loads list of modules named "cordova.*/main"
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >symbols.js files:
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   - Will make calls to modulemapper instead of exporting
> > > >>>>>>{clobbers:}
> > > >>>>>> >      - This make dependencies work by require()ing dependent
> > > >>>>>>symbols
> > > >>>>>> >   - We want the to be an evaluated .js file instead of
> something
> > > >>>>>> listed
> > > >>>>>> >in
> > > >>>>>> >   plugin.xml
> > > >>>>>> >      - So that it can export based on browser version
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >Implementation Steps
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >   1. Expose list of registered modules in scripts/require.js
> so
> > > >>>>>>that
> > > >>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>> >   can loop over them
> > > >>>>>> >   2. Write modulemapper.js (and have unit tests, of course)
> > > >>>>>> >   3. Add logic to bootstrap.js that calls into modulemapper
> > > >>>>>> >   4. create $PLUGIN_NAME/symbols.js files for each plugin
> within
> > > >>>>>> cordova.
> > > >>>>>> >   5. Add logic to bootstrap.js that calls into modulemapper
> > > >>>>>> >   6. Create main.js files for those that currently have logic
> in
> > > >>>>>> their
> > > >>>>>> >   platform.js files
> > > >>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>> >*
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>



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