it is very easily arguable that notifications are important to mobile, and
important enough that we should look at ensuring Cordova as a platform
supports them well

but agreed we need to pull up our socks on the older stuff, and maybe do
some housecleaning

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:

> Core, or no core, the plugin already exists:
> https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/
> It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS.
>
> In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service
> makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to the
> API.
>
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS camera.
> >
> > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises that
> we
> > can't keep.  For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but our
> > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very little
> > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big
> > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has
> > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end
> > devices with a lot of users.  The Battery Spec is another example, where
> > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal is
> > absolute garbage and unimplementable.
> >
> > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long promised,
> > but forever pushed forward API audit.  I know that a push notifications
> > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy when
> > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the
> place.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some
> > standard
> > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec).
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at
> > > supporting
> > > > > what we have on our plate now.  I would rather we have less core
> > > plugins
> > > > > than more.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This one supports everything:
> > > > > >
> > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and it is MIT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > risingj.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the last
> > few
> > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile
> projects, a
> > > > core
> > > > > > push
> > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another
> > argument
> > > > for
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > > you should use cordova.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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