My feelings are the same a Joe here. Current plugins are deteriorating. Camera is especially bad.
Another reason to not dive in is that this isn't a trivial plugin to create. The PushPlugin highlighted seems to always result in notifications when pushes are received. The spec highlighted (as well as how native apps work on Android) deliver the message and it's up to the app to show a notification or not. Cordova on Android isn't currently able to work in this way. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:59 PM, tommy-carlos williams <[email protected]> wrote: > This > > > > On 20 October 2014 at 11:49:21, Brian LeRoux ([email protected]) wrote: > > for me its about acknowledging the importance of push notifications to the > platform and making it a first class citizen > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Gorkem Ercan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:24:26PM -0700, Jesse wrote: > > > Core, or no core, the plugin already exists: > > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/ > > > It works on iOS, Android, BB10, WP8, Windows8, and Amazon Fire OS. > > > > > > In my mind, the fact that every device uses it's own messaging service > > > makes this a non-starter. At least for moving to core, and/or adding to > > the > > > API. > > > > > > > What is the expected benefit of moving a plugin this much mature to > > core plugins? > > > > > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > risingj.com > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I bet you that the Android Camera is more terrible than the iOS > camera. > > > > > > > > The big problem with a lot of the plugins is that we make promises > > that we > > > > can't keep. For example, the Android camera only supports JPG, but > our > > > > docs say that you can take PNG photos, which not only makes very > little > > > > sense, but isn't possible with the current code without a really big > > > > refactor. There's also the whole memory restriction problem that has > > > > creeped its ugly head with the Moto G and Moto E, which are lower end > > > > devices with a lot of users. The Battery Spec is another example, > > where > > > > the current Android implemntation is unusable, and the W3C Proposal > is > > > > absolute garbage and unimplementable. > > > > > > > > I don't want any more core plugins until we finally do our long > > promised, > > > > but forever pushed forward API audit. I know that a push > notifications > > > > plugin is super tempting, but this is like us adopting another puppy > > when > > > > we have a dead hamster, fish and turtle in our room stinking up the > > place. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some > > > > standard > > > > > API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec). > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we need more core plugins? We're already pretty terrible at > > > > > supporting > > > > > > > what we have on our plate now. I would rather we have less core > > > > > plugins > > > > > > > than more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jesse < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one supports everything: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/phonegap-build/PushPlugin/blob/master/plugin.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is MIT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > > > > > > risingj.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lorin Beer < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been asked about this from multiple sources over the > > last > > > > few > > > > > > > weeks. > > > > > > > > > Given how important push notifications are for mobile > > projects, a > > > > > > core > > > > > > > > push > > > > > > > > > notification plugin would be a great addition and another > > > > argument > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > you should use cordova. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > >
