Yeah... I kinda fell into the "not sure, wait and see what others thought" category on this one.
I would also like more discussion unless everyone really has no opinion. > On 8 Oct 2015, at 05:42, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would suggest that the lack of response on the logo change means we don't > need it. > I think there should at least be some discussion before moving on it. > >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Brad Gashler <bra...@microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I wanted to follow up on the branding changes proposed by Ben Sperry (his >> email is included below). >> >> I’m planning on implementing his changes, since no objections were raised. >> This includes the new logo, with its modern typeface, as shown in picture A >> below. Also, we may replace the background image with the simple gradient >> as shown in picture B below. Please let me know if there are any concerns >> replacing this background image. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad Gashler >> >> >> A) New logo only >> >> >> >> B) New logo and new gradient background >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ben Sperry [mailto:b...@ionic.io] >> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign >> >> I really like where this update is going, and what it signals to the >> community: Cordova is a legitimate, modern tech solution that's still very >> much alive and growing. The website look/feel has a lot of confidence, love >> it! >> >> I'm curious what thoughts are around a Cordova logo update itself. I put >> together a version that I thought might support the evolution of Cordova >> into a more modern looking brand. Would love feedback on this early logo >> update mockup: regular >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fionic-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-3d-proposal.png&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oKVaCThqWbhTgak3efAaM%2f3f1d1wGyqazXPdboZjsAk%3d> >> / flat >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fionic-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-flat-proposal.png&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=vyJ80acz9%2bDPk4YZuidiCPknjl%2fwOCKN7KMyxem5jJg%3d> >> >> A few things to note: The typeface is really the big update - the little >> robot logo itself can stay the same (because he is awesome). The existing >> typeface is just plain-old Helvetica, which is totally fine, but can >> sometimes feel empty of any personality or uniqueness. My suggestion is >> simply to update it to a more contemporary, custom typeface (in this case, >> Brandon Text >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fhvdfonts.com%2fbrandontext%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qFtGPbwutLEDyHils6NLuVjZrmSedM%2bPAM%2fv42v1E4s%3d>). >> >> Would love to hear any and all thoughts on this! >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Frederico Galvão < >>> frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br> wrote: >>> >>> Looks great indeed, nice job! >>> >>> One thing I noticed is that >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fproje >>> cts.apache.org%2fproject.html%3fcordova&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40micros >>> oft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd >>> 011db47%7c1&sdata=ZeVerioKs9Eu8faVlumAOu0bmmXPyqq6tJ5gsXU2KNM%3d >>> seems very outdated. >>> >>> 2015-09-23 22:49 GMT-03:00 Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> This looks great. >>>> Can you add a sub page link in the navigation column to this page? >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcordov >>> a.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fplugin_ref%2fsp >>> ec.html&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408 >>> d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Ng%2fQbCHankWf >>> qNC%2fx9Xsaj1OxfSkoMhaH97WmznRfeI%3d >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:50 PM Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Waw. It looks really really nice! Thanks so much for taking care >>>>> of >>> this. >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for doing this, the site is great! >>>>>> The community will love this. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Ryan J. Salva < >>> ryanjsa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> TLDR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Feedback requested for a proposed Cordova website redesign >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% >>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg >>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b >>>>>>> f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf >>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- The redesign was influenced by interviews with 300+ mobile >>>>>>> developers. From these conversations, we identified six top >>>>>>> level >>>>>>> goals: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Establish that Cordova is an active project relevant to >>> developers >>>>>>> in 2016 (the future!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Show the potential of hybrid apps by highlighting some rock >>>>>> star-quality apps >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Demonstrate critical mass by sharing a diverse set of tools >>>>>>> and businesses that have “made a bet” on Cordova >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Improve developer’s first experience with Cordova by adding >>> quick >>>>>>> start instructions and explanatory text for key concepts (e.g. >>>>>>> plugins) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Increase community participation by raising the visibility >>>>>>> of public forums (e.g. Slack, StackOverflow, Twitter) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Maintain consistency with the current website (i.e. >>>>>>> branding and content parity) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- The long read ---- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grab a cup of coffee. This is a long one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As some of you may know, several committers from the Seattle >>>>>>> area (including Nikhil, Parashuram and I) have just completed >>>>>>> a long >>>> series >>>>>>> of interviews with mobile developers. In the past three >>>>>>> months, >>> I’ve >>>>>>> personally interviewed over 100 developers. The team has >>> collectively >>>>>>> interviewed closer to 300. We learned a lot and hope to share >>>>>>> a summary (with infographics!) of our insights soon. In the >>> meantime, I >>>>>>> want to share one of the more poignant quotes from one interview. >>>> When >>>>>>> asked, “How can we make your job easier?”, one Cordova >>>>>>> developer >>>>>>> responded: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “Take the stigma away from hybrid development. I can prove >>>>>>> that >>> it’s >>>>>>> the right tool for the job, but I have to prove it >>>>>>> over-and-over again. I wish that I didn’t have to have the >>>>>>> same conversation >>> every >>>>>>> time I want to use Cordova with a new manager or client.” -- >>> Murali, >>>>>>> Cordova Developer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are lots of ways to solve this problem, but one of the >>>>>>> easier and more visible ways is through Cordova’s front-door. >>>>>>> The Cordova website has served us well for the last 5+ years, >>>>>>> but I believe a redesign could help us address some pain points in the >>>>>>> community. >>> To >>>>>>> put it simply, we have a public perception problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “It’s hard to argue for Cordova when there are few examples of >>>>>>> it being successfully used.” -- Gary, Ionic Developer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Developers and architects are looking for examples of good >>>> development >>>>>>> to prove that high-quality, fast apps are possible. So, we >>>>>>> thought >>> it >>>>>>> might be good to highlight some rock star-quality apps on the >>>>>>> home page. Anyone can submit a PR to add their app so long as >>>>>>> it appears >>>> in >>>>>>> a public store and uses Cordova. If the list of apps gets too >>>>>>> long (and it will), then we’ll randomize display. The same is >>>>>>> true for a list of tools and platforms that build on top of Cordova. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “There are so many layers to cross-platform development, it’s >>>>>>> hard >>> to >>>>>>> know how they all fit together. It’s even harder to know if >>>>>>> you’re missing a critical piece.” -- Mike, Cordova Developer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By itself, the website redesign won’t address this problem. We >>>>>>> need some good architectural docs that not only illustrate how >>>>>>> Cordova works, but also how it integrates with the larger ecosystem >>>>>>> (e.g. >>>>>>> Crosswalk). However, we’re also hoping that by adding a little >>>>>>> more “hand-holding” on the site, we can help developers >>>>>>> achieve success faster. For example, we provide simple >>>>>>> instructions for “Getting Started” on the home page. And, on >>>>>>> the Plugins page, we provide a quick explanation of plugins’ role in >>>>>>> Cordova development. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “It’s not clear where I can go for support.” -- Geoff, Cordova >>>>> Developer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay… none of us want to provide customer support for the >>>>>>> whole community, but I want to make it easy for people to find >>>>>>> the community. To that end, our goal was to integrate >>>>>>> prominent >>> pointers >>>>>>> to all the places where our community aggregates – e.g. Slack, >>>>>>> StackOverflow, JIRA and mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change for the sake of change is… well, for people with more >>>>>>> time >>> on >>>>>>> their hands than me, but this seems like the right time for a >>> change >>>>>>> to the Cordova website. There’s a compelling developer need >>>>>>> and >>>> little >>>>>>> risk in making the change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Barring any grievous concerns, I'd love to get the new site >>> launched >>>>>>> ASAP. If we need to make small changes after launch, it will >>>>>>> be >>> easy >>>>>>> to iterate. If you see any bugs that need to be fixed, please >>>>>>> file them here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f >>>>>>> %2fissues.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB%2fcomponent%2f123205 >>>>>>> 62%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5d >>>>>>> e06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata= >>>>>>> cqI15afm9l5RsQ0Oz9sg8EHqsUK6p2ESn8HyfhHFAq0%3d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I open the floor to discussion ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% >>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg >>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b >>>>>>> f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf >>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Ryan J. 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