The new typeface and a few other minor visual tweaks are up! Kindly, Dmitry
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 here too. > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> This sounds more like consensus! >> I too am +1 on changing the typeface. >> >> Cheers, >> Jesse >> >>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1 on the typeface - I think it does send the “modern-ness” message. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 10/8/15, 10:39 AM, "Carlos Santana" <csantan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> + 1 on the typeface >>>> leave the logo as it is today (3d, gray, etc..) >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 AM Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 9:15 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well said, and ya updated typeface looks slick. 👍 >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM Ryan J. Salva <rsa...@microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm personally a big fan of Ben's proposal. The typography really >>>>> stands >>>>>>> out and gives the brand a strong, updated and modern presence. I know >>>>>>> there's a lot of pride in the heritage of the logo, and for that >>>>> reason I >>>>>>> wouldn't dream of losing our beloved robot. However, the typography is >>>>> a >>>>>>> different story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it absolutely necessary? Well... that really depends on your >>>>>>> perspective. From talking with many of you and other developers at >>>>>>> conferences and events over the past year, I've heard a repeating theme >>>>>>> that Cordova has a public-perception problem. A typography update won't >>>>>>> change that perception by itself, but it will demonstrate that Cordova >>>>>>> isn't staying still... that the project is evolving, growing and >>>>>> improving. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> </mytwocents> >>>>>>> rjs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ryan J. Salva | Principal Program Manager Lead >>>>>>> Visual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova >>>>>>> rsa...@microsoft.com >>>>>>> 206 612 5079 mobile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Tommy-Carlos Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 12:21 PM >>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah... I kinda fell into the "not sure, wait and see what others >>>>>> thought" >>>>>>> category on this one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would also like more discussion unless everyone really has no >>>>> opinion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 Oct 2015, at 05:42, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would suggest that the lack of response on the logo change means we >>>>>>> don't need it. >>>>>>>> I think there should at least be some discussion before moving on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Brad Gashler <bra...@microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to follow up on the branding changes proposed by Ben Sperry >>>>>>> (his email is included below). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’m planning on implementing his changes, since no objections were >>>>>>> raised. This includes the new logo, with its modern typeface, as shown >>>>>> in >>>>>>> picture A below. Also, we may replace the background image with the >>>>>> simple >>>>>>> gradient as shown in picture B below. Please let me know if there are >>>>>> any >>>>>>> concerns replacing this background image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brad Gashler >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A) New logo only >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> B) New logo and new gradient background >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Ben Sperry [mailto:b...@ionic.io] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I really like where this update is going, and what it signals to the >>>>>>>>> community: Cordova is a legitimate, modern tech solution that's >>>>> still >>>>>>> very much alive and growing. The website look/feel has a lot of >>>>>> confidence, >>>>>>> love it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm curious what thoughts are around a Cordova logo update itself. I >>>>>>>>> put together a version that I thought might support the evolution of >>>>>>>>> Cordova into a more modern looking brand. Would love feedback on >>>>> this >>>>>>>>> early logo update mockup: regular >>>>>>>>> < >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fioni >>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=c-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=r7JctK6wY1QhZ2GZNlumefajI4vAGiseq9LrehDxEPQ%3d >>>>> %2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-3d-proposal.png >>>>>>>>> &data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com >>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d >>>>> 409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oKVaCThqWbhTgak3efA >>>>>>>>> aM%2f3f1d1wGyqazXPdboZjsAk%3d> >>>>>>>>> / flat >>>>>>>>> < >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fioni >>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=c-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=r7JctK6wY1QhZ2GZNlumefajI4vAGiseq9LrehDxEPQ%3d >>>>> %2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-flat-proposal.p >>>>>>>>> ng&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com >>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c5 >>>>> 1d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=vyJ80acz9%2bDPk4Y >>>>>>>>> ZuidiCPknjl%2fwOCKN7KMyxem5jJg%3d> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A few things to note: The typeface is really the big update - the >>>>>>> little robot logo itself can stay the same (because he is awesome). The >>>>>>> existing typeface is just plain-old Helvetica, which is totally fine, >>>>> but >>>>>>> can sometimes feel empty of any personality or uniqueness. My >>>>> suggestion >>>>>> is >>>>>>> simply to update it to a more contemporary, custom typeface (in this >>>>>> case, >>>>>>> Brandon Text < >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fhvdfonts.com%2fbrandontext%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qFtGPbwutLEDyHils6NLuVjZrmSedM%2bPAM%2fv42v1E4s%3d >>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would love to hear any and all thoughts on this! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Frederico Galvão < >>>>>>> frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks great indeed, nice job! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed is that >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fpro >>>>>>>>>> je >>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=cts.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lVvO3PkmcJVdQB0dgvNo5cbNePQbnHaDypcxs6A4RWI%3d >>>>> %2fproject.html%3fcordova&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40micr >>>>>>>>>> os >>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=oft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=77v5pCW0ra6Nb%2fuNbIcqQq41RU462BlgTtfHQYaFOho%3d >>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7 >>>>>>>>>> cd 011db47%7c1&sdata=ZeVerioKs9Eu8faVlumAOu0bmmXPyqq6tJ5gsXU2KNM%3d >>>>>>>>>> seems very outdated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-23 22:49 GMT-03:00 Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This looks great. >>>>>>>>>>> Can you add a sub page link in the navigation column to this page? >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcord >>>>>>>>>> ov >>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=a.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=rLJ9p20Bvow5ZrbWSINMTOtrvxMn1TYxdGAso%2f5Udhg%3d >>>>> %2fuse-the-force-luke%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fplugin_ref%2f >>>>>>>>>> sp >>>>>>>>>> ec.html&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com >>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de064 >>>>>>>>>> 08 >>>>> d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Ng%2fQbCHank >>>>>>>>>> Wf qNC%2fx9Xsaj1OxfSkoMhaH97WmznRfeI%3d >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:50 PM Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Waw. It looks really really nice! Thanks so much for taking care >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for doing this, the site is great! >>>>>>>>>>>>> The community will love this. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Ryan J. Salva < >>>>>>>>>> ryanjsa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLDR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Feedback requested for a proposed Cordova website redesign >>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The redesign was influenced by interviews with 300+ mobile >>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers. From these conversations, we identified six top >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goals: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish that Cordova is an active project relevant to >>>>>>>>>> developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2016 (the future!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Show the potential of hybrid apps by highlighting some rock >>>>>>>>>>>>> star-quality apps >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Demonstrate critical mass by sharing a diverse set of tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and businesses that have “made a bet” on Cordova >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Improve developer’s first experience with Cordova by adding >>>>>>>>>> quick >>>>>>>>>>>>>> start instructions and explanatory text for key concepts (e.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Increase community participation by raising the visibility >>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public forums (e.g. Slack, StackOverflow, Twitter) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Maintain consistency with the current website (i.e. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> branding and content parity) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- The long read ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grab a cup of coffee. This is a long one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As some of you may know, several committers from the Seattle >>>>>>>>>>>>>> area (including Nikhil, Parashuram and I) have just completed a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>>> series >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of interviews with mobile developers. In the past three months, >>>>>>>>>> I’ve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally interviewed over 100 developers. The team has >>>>>>>>>> collectively >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interviewed closer to 300. We learned a lot and hope to share a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> summary (with infographics!) of our insights soon. In the >>>>>>>>>> meantime, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to share one of the more poignant quotes from one >>>>> interview. >>>>>>>>>>> When >>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked, “How can we make your job easier?”, one Cordova >>>>> developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> responded: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Take the stigma away from hybrid development. I can prove that >>>>>>>>>> it’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right tool for the job, but I have to prove it >>>>> over-and-over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I wish that I didn’t have to have the same conversation >>>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time I want to use Cordova with a new manager or client.” -- >>>>>>>>>> Murali, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are lots of ways to solve this problem, but one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier and more visible ways is through Cordova’s front-door. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Cordova website has served us well for the last 5+ years, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I believe a redesign could help us address some pain points >>>>>> in >>>>>>> the community. >>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>>>>>>> put it simply, we have a public perception problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s hard to argue for Cordova when there are few examples of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it being successfully used.” -- Gary, Ionic Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developers and architects are looking for examples of good >>>>>>>>>>> development >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prove that high-quality, fast apps are possible. So, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be good to highlight some rock star-quality apps on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> home page. Anyone can submit a PR to add their app so long as >>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a public store and uses Cordova. If the list of apps gets too >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long (and it will), then we’ll randomize display. The same is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> true for a list of tools and platforms that build on top of >>>>>>> Cordova. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “There are so many layers to cross-platform development, it’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how they all fit together. It’s even harder to know if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you’re missing a critical piece.” -- Mike, Cordova Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> By itself, the website redesign won’t address this problem. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need some good architectural docs that not only illustrate how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova works, but also how it integrates with the larger >>>>>>> ecosystem (e.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosswalk). However, we’re also hoping that by adding a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more “hand-holding” on the site, we can help developers achieve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> success faster. For example, we provide simple instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Getting Started” on the home page. And, on the Plugins page, >>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a quick explanation of plugins’ role in Cordova >>>>>>> development. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s not clear where I can go for support.” -- Geoff, Cordova >>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay… none of us want to provide customer support for the >>>>> whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, but I want to make it easy for people to find the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> community. To that end, our goal was to integrate prominent >>>>>>>>>> pointers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to all the places where our community aggregates – e.g. Slack, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> StackOverflow, JIRA and mailing list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change for the sake of change is… well, for people with more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their hands than me, but this seems like the right time for a >>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Cordova website. There’s a compelling developer need and >>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk in making the change. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barring any grievous concerns, I'd love to get the new site >>>>>>>>>> launched >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASAP. If we need to make small changes after launch, it will be >>>>>>>>>> easy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to iterate. If you see any bugs that need to be fixed, please >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file them here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f >>>>>>>>>>>>>> %2fissues.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB%2fcomponent%2f123205 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5d >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cqI15afm9l5RsQ0Oz9sg8EHqsUK6p2ESn8HyfhHFAq0%3d >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I open the floor to discussion ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f% >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan J. 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