The board is almost clear -- now to test this for a bit before it's ready for primetime. https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=76
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks guys! > I've commented on the PR, there is one more commit to add. > > Created the board: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=96 > (based off the label you created) > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Vladimir Kotikov (Akvelon) > <v-vlk...@microsoft.com> wrote: >> Hi, guys. >> >> We've cherry-picked all the commits related to iOS9 / Xcode 7 issues into >> 3.9.x and send corresponding PR to 3.9.x branch [1]. Shazrov, Steve please >> review when possible. >> >> Regarding new board for 3.9.2 release - neither Sergey nor me don't have a >> permissions to create a shared queries, so we just tagged issues with >> <cordova-ios-3.9.2> label. You can find all tagged issues using a query [2]. >> >> --- >> [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-ios/pull/175 >> [2] >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-9729?jql=labels%20%3D%20cordova-ios-3.9.2 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shazron [mailto:shaz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:29 PM >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release >> >> Sorry for the late reply -- took a sick day. >> >> I'd really like to just get cordova-ios 4.x out without a patch release in >> between, since there are just a few more issues left before we can clear the >> board (I'll triage it again), and a 4.x release would follow closely a 3.9.2 >> release. >> >> After mulling it over -- what I want and what is needed is of course two >> things. I really don't want the headache of third-party plugin breakage >> issues on the first day of release, which will happen. The API removals >> (although our prerogative) never had a deprecation warning. In a perfect >> world, after blogging about it and communicating it to plugin authors, they >> would update their plugins in a backwards compatible way immediately (which >> I plan to write a howto included in the platform and/or blog post -- there's >> a jira issue for it) >> >> No plugin author updates things without encountering a breakage after >> hearing from their users -- blog posts just don't have the impact that code >> breakage does :) So -- here's a plan: >> >> A cordova-ios-3.9.2 release, there should be two goals: >> 1. iOS 9 / Xcode 7 fixes (scan the 4.x kanban board for all fixed issues) 2. >> Add deprecation/removal warnings through the macro >> (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fCDVAvailabilityDeprecated.h%23L23&data=01%7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008d2dba59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=7p9BQz45eR6YUHUjiySQolzVCT9bNmqidrTQTVkn8OM%3d). >> Not a deprecation, but a removal since that is our prerogative for major >> version bumps. >> >> For #2, for the API items that have been removed (through the macros) >> -- we include strong language and pointers on how to fix it, and/or >> instructions for users to contact the plugin author to fix. Not sure how >> hard -- we could have some introspection in the plugin to actually print out >> the plugin id responsible. >> >> For cordova-ios-3.9.2 I would create a kanban board "cordova-ios-3.9.2" >> (linked to label 'cordova-ios-3.9.2'), then go through the cordova-ios-4.x >> board, see what issues apply, then add the label "cordova-ios-3.9.2" which >> would automatically appear on the new board. Go through the items in the new >> board, and cherry-pick the patches into the 3.9.x branch. >> >> Can Microsoft take on this 3.9.2 release while I continue to get the 4.x >> release out? >> >> FYI -- ATS is handled by the CLI (should be in the next cli release) and is >> not dependent on the cordova-ios platform. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal <nikhi...@microsoft.com> >> wrote: >>> Sent the message before completing it. >>> >>> What are good tasks to be poached on cordova-ios-4.x? In particular, my >>> team can help out with cordova-lib related ios tasks. Also, fixing plugins >>> or filing issues for upcoming breakages are great areas we can help out. >>> ios 4.x has critical fixes for XCode 7 usage which people need sooner >>> rather than later [1]. Could you mark them with a tag 'poachable'? We can >>> follow up on slack as well if this requires back and forth. I'll ping you >>> later today. >>> >>> As for breaking change below, I've not been keeping up ios-4.x as closely - >>> I must've missed the communication on it. I understand there is a >>> possibility of breaking because of how "categories" work in Objective-C (I >>> just read up on it - it's a nifty feature). I also understand that they >>> were not *intended* to be used. AFAIK we do not document our platform APIs >>> and even our core plugins (camera) was using this particular API. As we >>> discussed in cordova F2F, developers do not have high confidence with the >>> version of plugins (particularly third party) to pick and choose and >>> anything we could do in how we version our API/manage breaking changes - >>> will make Cordova a smoother experience. The impact of this breaking change >>> is HIGH from the small sample set of plugins we tested. >>> >>> As far as I understand, Cordova-ios 3.9.x is not usable with XCODE 7 - ATS, >>> ENABLE_BITCODE being two issues[2]. Cordova-ios 4.x is not ready and will >>> likely break the third-party plugins they use when it releases. Should we >>> really push for a patch release for cordova-ios 3.9.x to fix XCODE 7 >>> issues? @Shaz: How feasible would this be? I know some of us at Microsoft >>> can help do this with guidance. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko >>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3dENABLE_BITCODE%2b%255Bcordova%255D&data=01% >>> 7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008d2dba >>> 59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=6TZPBz5vNlDgL1A9c7% >>> 2fsUoknh553FwrIqL7pjbsqcFE%3d [2] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko >>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3d%2522XCODE%2b7%2522%2b%255Bcordova%255D&dat >>> a=01%7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008 >>> d2dba59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LKaFhkW05D%2fG >>> ZcInG4LUTRm9Am2QMyMMxhrwcFtCIK0%3d >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:09 AM >>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release >>> >>> What are good tasks to be poached on cordova-ios-4.x? In particular, my >>> team can help out with cordova-lib related ios tasks. Also, fixing plugins >>> or filing issues for upcoming breakages are great areas we can help out. >>> ios 4.x has critical fixes for XCode 7 usage which people need sooner >>> rather than later [1]. Could you mark them with a tag 'poachable'? We can >>> follow up on slack as well if this requires back and forth. I'll ping you >>> later today. >>> >>> As for breaking change below, I've not been keeping up ios-4.x as >>> closely - I must've missed the communication on it. I understand there >>> is a possibility of breaking because of how "categories" work in >>> Objective-C (I just read up on it - it's a nifty feature). I also >>> understand that they were not *intended* to be used. AFAIK we do not >>> document our platform APIs and even our core plugins (camera) was >>> using this particular API. As we discussed in cordova F2F >>> >>> As far as I understand, Cordova-ios 3.9.x is not usable with XCODE 7 - ATS, >>> ENABLE_BITCODE being two issues[2]. Cordova-ios 4.x is not ready and will >>> likely break the third-party plugins they use when it releases. Should we >>> really push for a patch release for cordova-ios 3.9.x to fix XCODE 7 >>> issues? @Shaz: How feasible would this be? >>> >>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko >>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3dENABLE_BITCODE%2b%255Bcordova%255D&data=01% >>> 7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cea1259c06ea744fff37e08d2da213c72%7c7 >>> 2f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=EssE%2b0BTiymN1aS7HtBoOVM%2b >>> usvcGAKZHanRs9QZXYw%3d [2] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko >>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3d%2522XCODE%2b7%2522%2b%255Bcordova%255D&dat >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cea1259c06ea744fff37e08d2da213c7 >>> 2%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=PBGhQ3sro1fE6Ft3ZOHBv3R >>> kLdNMOg%2fp4gFgSq2Eets%3d >>> >>> -Nikhil >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Shazron [mailto:shaz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:34 PM >>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release >>> >>> This release will not be complete as long as the cordova-ios-4.x board has >>> issues. The only major issue is the plugin building stuff plus docs. >>> >>> The removal was projected for some time - you might not have remembered the >>> discussions in JIRA. NSData+Base64 are "Categories" in Objective-C >>> parlance. These were *never* documented to be used outside of Cordova and >>> are fair game for removal, particularly a major version release. The >>> problem with Categories are, other non-Cordova code can implement these >>> Categories with the same names as well -- and during runtime the >>> implementation that is "chosen" is indeterminate. We can't have that with >>> Cordova since JSON serialization and deserialization are important for the >>> bridge. >>> >>> Yes, a blog post and "migration guide" is coming, among other things >>> on my plate -- see >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fissue >>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB-9785&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40micro >>> soft.com%7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7c >>> d011db47%7c1&sdata=sGf5ya8dvvT2BxunFhyA0X7IzCXRdEG4bxmbZT0rgu0%3d >>> My plan is to send pull requests to some plugins with the common issues, so >>> people can see how to update. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <nikhi...@microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Where are we with this release? >>>> >>>> Alexander Sorokin did some analysis on plugin build failures because of >>>> this ios-4.0-dev and there are quite a few. >>>> >>>> This spreadsheet summarizes the build failures with the build log in a >>>> comment: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdocs. >>>> google.com%2fspreadsheets%2fd%2f1sm8ioXY21z3RdyqT7J9n1Q_hmm9zgod5awTo >>>> F >>>> F_X66U%2fedit%3fusp%3dsharing&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com >>>> % >>>> 7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47 >>>> % 7c1&sdata=PTiv%2bPvncuJ4g0b%2bj8GTO1ovdCKL8Y%2fHFW4QEQt%2b6i8%3d >>>> >>>> Quite a few of the failures are because of the removal of NsData+Base64.h >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fguides%2fAPI%2520changes%2520in%25204.0.md%23nsdatabase64h.&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=GS43mbEp5TKlUWs4A2mRMZ36sMaBxniFC%2fQbRkzzg24%3d >>>> What's the rationale behind removing this? Did we deprecate these methods >>>> before we removed them? >>>> >>>> I understand the changes for plugin developers are simple - but it does >>>> seem to require a number of plugins to be updated to ensure apps are not >>>> broken. >>>> >>>> It will be great to publish a blog post on cordova blog about these >>>> breaking changes. >>>> >>>> -Nikhil >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 10:22 PM >>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release >>>> >>>> +1 Choo Choo ... >>>> >>>> I reviewed all links in your proposal and they look and don't have >>>> concerns >>>> >>>> IBM MobileFirst was affected only by the API change of using >>>> webviewengine now but that's so far the only major change >>>> >>>> In the kaban board for 4.0 there are some issues I consider nice to >>>> have that are not blockers to get a 4.0 out for iOS if we get closed >>>> to the ios9 launched date they can be deferred to a 4.0.1 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:38 PM Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gotta get the train going again, it's been too long. >>>>> >>>>> The kanban board for this is at: >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss >>>>> u >>>>> e >>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fsecure%2fRapidBoard.jspa%3frapidView%3d76&data >>>>> = >>>>> 0 >>>>> 1%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286 >>>>> % >>>>> 7 >>>>> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=b11%2bCUSw4d5Q9SN%2b8roA >>>>> W >>>>> o >>>>> Ra2plB0lJXeCJb9RC2Sqw%3d >>>>> >>>>> Please help if you can by assigning an issue to yourself, and >>>>> selecting the "Start Progress" button. This will show who is working >>>>> on what in the middle "In Progress" column. >>>>> >>>>> I've trimmed this and it includes cordova-ios platform issues, and >>>>> some plugin issues. Priority given to platform issues of course, and >>>>> issues with iOS 9. If there is a pressing issue that needs to go in, >>>>> assign it the label "cordova-ios-4.0.x" but propose it to this >>>>> thread first so we don't get de-railed, there's only so much room on >>>>> the train. Similarly if you think an issue can get thrown off the >>>>> train to cordova-ios-5.0.x, post on this thread. >>>>> >>>>> Focus is on core plugin stability with the new platform, since it >>>>> does have API changes. If downstream distribution people are on this >>>>> list, this concerns your third-party plugins too. >>>>> >>>>> The easiest way to test if it affects your plugin building: >>>>> >>>>> ``` >>>>> cordova platform add >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit >>>>> h >>>>> u >>>>> b.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios.git&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft. >>>>> c >>>>> om%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 >>>>> d b 47%7c1&sdata=%2fyEILBHFok2F6BK9aeOOd3ibr3V4GNFhvhWWek%2fRqjs%3d >>>>> cordova plugin add your-plugin-id >>>>> cordova build >>>>> ``` >>>>> >>>>> Plugin updates and highlights: >>>>> - API changes doc: >>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fguides%2fAPI%2520changes%2520in%25204.0.md&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oc6rb7Mbb2%2bDmKRPwtRBd3jyl0gh74mA5I%2fwiHLpqhM%3d >>>>> - 3 new private core plugins to the platform: >>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2ftree%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPrivate%2fPlugins&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=xoM2X4%2bcjp9oqKHhtviNfEdimxiIR%2bTJrg80tI1Fbek%3d >>>>> - Plugin localized strings and resource loading: >>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fCDVPlugin%252BResources.h&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=m2xhhALHTJ8rb2aPg68hMWVcU9ebo51zGXwihQEr1LY%3d >>>>> - Preferences helper: >>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fNSDictionary%252BCordovaPreferences.h&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=jUUM60Yks2vRWVPJdeUc8Hhek3CuH6bYKwQlbXDZSxM%3d >>>>> - WebViews as plugins. UIWebView is a private core plugin (see above). >>>>> WKWebView as a plugin installable >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit >>>>> h >>>>> u >>>>> b.com%2fapache%2fcordova-plugins%2ftree%2fmaster%2fwkwebview-engine& >>>>> d >>>>> a >>>>> ta=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41f >>>>> b >>>>> 2 >>>>> 86%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oxWiqvoBbVXRKZVL64w2 >>>>> W >>>>> O >>>>> XjbBJ%2fdvVu2cBVnV4hf9Y%3d >>>>> >>>>> I also want to highlight this scenario which a lot of people will >>>>> encounter: >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss >>>>> u >>>>> e >>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB-9592&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40mic >>>>> r >>>>> o >>>>> soft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d >>>>> 7 c >>>>> d011db47%7c1&sdata=oMjN7hq1FiR8YIr7tk6t4L8cG6FwAlCHVCiV7MYZdQs%3d >>>>> >>>>> I had to trim features and push it off to cordova-ios-5.0.x: >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss >>>>> u >>>>> e >>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fsecure%2fRapidBoard.jspa%3frapidView%3d86&data >>>>> = >>>>> 0 >>>>> 1%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286 >>>>> % >>>>> 7 >>>>> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=4N1dxtFBRjM%2fgJULVWBYLc >>>>> 0 >>>>> Z >>>>> NH7rJArJX5KlvDBqC68%3d >>>>> >>>>> Planned ship/vote date is around iOS 9 release time, which I believe >>>>> is in >>>>> 2 weeks or so (mid Sept 2015). >>>>> >>>>> Choo choo.... >>>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
