I have to agree with Louis here. The community has clearly expressed wanting to work on code and have fun.
The community is also willing to do the right things to follow Apache policy in a reasonable way that is looser than some projects but likely stricter than others. Let's also be sure to acknowledge that English is a hard language that is not universally the same. I think this group is a very unique set of people with a lot to give and the willingness to do so. I am sure my quirks annoy at times only being human. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 24 Aug 15, at 04:20, Peter Kelly <pmke...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> Thoughts? > > I love policy and am a policywonk I love bureaucracy and love all the great > things—no irony—it’s done and doing. Also I love being really cautious about > any set of rules, especially when the application of those rules seems to be > more in behalf of the rule than for the desired outcome the rule is meant to > promote. And I’ve always felt that with small groups working more or less > well one does not want to introduce rules whose application would, in > different circumstances, be more reasonable and in compliance with policy. In > the case of a small project like Corinthia, the insistence of a protocol > whose application would cost a tedious retread and risk losing the not just > developer enthusiasm but, developers comes across as an assertion of power. > And it’s irritating, to say the least. > > People, let’s cool it. That goes to everyone. > > I’ve been in situations like this before; we all have. In open source > projects, one learns to live with what works, even when that goes counter to > policy, and to catch what can be caught, and if that’s not feasible, then to > urge a "next time let’s be better" approach. Everyone knows it’s hard to work > together and that when it happens, it’s fragile, especially for startup > projects, like ours. And, again, Corinthia is small. Really small. It will > stay that way—and maybe even shrink—if it seems a place of rigid bureaucracy > and hostility. > > So: let’s cool it and move ahead. > > And, please, all, let’s try to keep communications public and open and > inviting. I pushed for Corinthia because I see a huge opportunity for a > flexible and advanced productivity tool that is not hobbled by proprietary > code or standards and that can run on the devices people use, whatever they > be. No other project aspires to do as much and none has as much force behind > it. But none of that will matter if we mute ourselves and there is something > like Corinthia that pretends to be open but is at heart shrink-wrapped and > flows freely like beer to consumers, if not community. > > louis
