On 23/01/2009, at 6:12 AM, Noah Slater wrote:

If you want to use CouchDB to build your porn empire, all power to you -- but I think that expecting a link from our wiki is a little too much to ask.

Why? It's a page about apps using CouchDB, not a moral statement by a group of developers. I'm particularly concerned with comments that say that pornography is obviously unacceptable in the same sense that hate- sites are unacceptable. What about sites promoting FPS games that tout the realistic nature of their ultra-violent gruesomeness? Is sex really worse than the increasingly realistic depiction of such violence?

 * Gambling

Gambling is legal in many jurisdictions. The issue of the illegality of certain online gambling sites has more to do with issues of government control of revenue and taxation than any moral concern.

 * Pornography

It's highly likely that a porn site linked from the couch site is actually legal in many jurisdictions. And while I'm personally concerned about the explicit misogyny of much porn, what about a gay porn site?

* Untrusted sites for professional services, legal advice, online pharmacies, &c

What is untrusted? In any case, an online pharmacy may be the only/ best source of pharmaceutical product in some places.

 * Political or religious extremism, racial hatred, &c

What qualifies as 'extreme' in a political sense is difficult to objectively determine. IMO you can't use the 'promotes hate' line because much of the mainstream political discourse I saw in the recent US election implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) promoted hatred. Racial vilification is a clearer issue, but what about homosexual vilification? And what is religious extremism? Is your definition of 'extreme' determined by a western christian viewpoint?

* Sites related to illegal activities, drug taking, copyright infringement, &c

Some drug taking that is illegal in the US isn't illegal in some jurisdictions (and in any case it's hypocritical considering the revenue raised from tobacco and alcohol, both of which are more dangerous than many illegal drugs). Still, IMO illegality is the only benchmark you can use for any of these issues.

Personally I feel sites whose primary purpose is copyright infringement should be banned, but I'm in a minority in the connected community wrt copyright.

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I vote to allow anything that is legal in your hosting environment that meets the uses-couch requirement. Don't make ANY moral judgement, because you cannot objectively support such decisions, and it's only by making no judgement that you are insulated from the effects of making or not making a particular judgement.

Alternatively, if you avoid anything that could offend anyone, then you can't link to anything political, or religious. Or any sites that promotes reproductive freedom or argues for abortion rights, or that has anything to do with alcohol, or has pictures of people drinking alcohol (those last two are offensive to muslims) etc etc. I've worked tangentially in internationalization and come across some of these issues. It's a nightmare. Don't go there.

Antony Blakey
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