On 14 Jun 2011, at 20:56, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:

> From your email, this seems like a false generalization, at least,
> going from AsciiDoc to all "plain text" formats. I don't know if
> you've used reStructuredText, but it's seriously flexible and comes
> with good (easily customizable) latex and html conversion out of the
> box. I understand DocBook is awesome for print things, but experience
> has also shown that DocBook has a significantly higher barrier to
> entry. Going from a wiki to DocBook is like moving to the entire other
> end of the scale (okay, going with latex would be worse). You had a
> bad experience with AsciiDoc, but Sphinx is just awesome.

What you saw there is the tip of the iceberg.

It just so happens that I am sharing my experience with AsciiDoc, but my 
complaints stem from experience with a whole bunch of "plain text" syntaxes. At 
the root of it, DocBook is a plain text syntax. I don't know why people think 
XML or HTML are somehow "binary" or something. I mean, seriously. It's just 
text. DocBook isn't hard to author in  If you don't like typing tags, then you 
wont like typing markup in any language. What DocBook (or HTML) has over 
something like REST or Markdown or any of this other shovelware, is that its 
syntax is known by more people, more intuitively, and comes with more authoring 
tools.

If you hand me a DocBook file, I can hand you back a man page, an info page, a 
HTML site, a PDF, and some PostScript within about 5 minutes. Give me another 
half an hour, and I've baked it into the build system. Also, rainbows and 
ponies. Seriously.

Ubiquity is severely underrated.

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