+1 Nice to see these written down concisely and comprehensively.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Robert Samuel Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote: > > I vote +1 to the revised (rev 89) bylaws, thanks for the swift update! > > I don’t know if it matters but the opening thread states ' Tuesday, July 21, > 2014', but it is of course the 22nd. > > B. > > On 22 Jul 2014, at 02:37, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Agreed. Unless any major flaws are found, we should move any minor >> niggles to a separate document, and update in batch at some point in >> the future. >> >> Acknowledge your point about just lifting the content. Those documents >> are just guidelines, and are often poorly worded, or out of date. One >> of the things I was hoping to do with the bylaws was taken content >> from many sources, and improve on it. (Which we have succeeded at >> doing, and I am very proud of the work we've all done here!) >> >> As I say, I'm happy to +1 as it stands and deal with any minor edit >> suggestions at a later date (including my own). >> >> On 22 July 2014 03:31, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote: >>> I officially vote +1 on this document. >>> >>> A reminder, from my initial email on this round of updates: >>> >>>> At this point, the bylaws are mostly stable, but there may remain some >>>> tweaks to the text necessary to ensure they match how we have been >>>> running the project for some time now. We (the PMC) acknowledge that >>>> they are not perfect, but we do not want to let the perfect to be the >>>> enemy of the good (thanks to Voltaire), so we're moving ahead with them >>>> in the state they're in. >>> >>> This stands - minor changes should be queued up for later, we can put >>> together a diff and adopt that as a simple majority vote once these rules >>> are in effect. >>> >>> For reference, the edits referred to were pasted in came directly from ASF >>> documents - I made no personal changes and I think we make our own changes >>> at our own peril, especially of bikeshedding this to death. >>> https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html >>> >>> -Joan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Noah Slater" <nsla...@apache.org> >>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org >>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:24:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] [REVISED] Official CouchDB bylaws >>> >>> Two minor quibles. >>> >>> <rnewson> I mean that we say Lazy C is our main thing, but we later >>> say that RTC is. I think it's just a consequence of the doc's >>> evolution, and perhaps nothing more than reorg is needed >>> >>> ^ I agree with this, and the wording should be fixed to clarify that >>> Lazy C is default for non-technical decisions, and RTC is default for >>> tech decisions (i.e. code changes). >>> >>> I would change your added text from: >>> >>>> Remember that, as in any meeting, the chair is a facilitator and their >>>> role within the PMC is to ensure that everyone has a chance to be heard >>>> and to enable meetings to flow smoothly. There is no concept of "leader" >>>> in the Apache way. >>> >>> To: >>> >>>> Remember that, as in any meeting, the Chair is a facilitator and their >>>> role within the PMC is to ensure that everyone has a chance to be heard >>>> and to enable things to flow smoothly. It is primarily an administrative >>>> role. >>> >>> We mention the "no leader" thing in the opening para. :) >>> >>> Neither of these things are blocking. I will vote +1 on the bylaws as >>> they stand now, and move these suggestions to a buffer, for the next >>> round of edits we inevitably make (at some point in the future). >>> >>> >>> On 22 July 2014 03:12, Joan Touzet <jo...@lrtw.org> wrote: >>>> **REVISED BYLAWS DOCUMENT VERSION** >>>> >>>> Voting period starts 02:00:00 UTC on Tuesday, July 21, 2014 >>>> Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Sunday, July 27, 2014 >>>> >>>> >>>> INTRODUCTION >>>> ============ >>>> This Call For Votes is for voting in an official set of Apache CouchDB >>>> bylaws. This vote is being conducted as required by the proposed bylaws >>>> themselves. For voting questions or problems, contact the PMC at >>>> priv...@couchdb.apache.org. >>>> >>>> The intent is to make this an official document of Apache CouchDB. >>>> >>>> To cast a binding vote, you need to be a CouchDB PMC member. >>>> >>>> As this is the first vote of its kind, and this document is foundational >>>> to our decision-making process in the future, _the PMC is asking all >>>> active committers to cast voluntary, non-binding votes as well_. >>>> >>>> >>>> HOW TO VOTE >>>> =========== >>>> First, read the full text of the proposal. >>>> >>>> The text of the bylaw document being voted on can be found at: >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40511017 >>>> >>>> The vote is on version *89* of this document as displayed in the document >>>> page history at: >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpreviousversions.action?pageId=40511017 >>>> >>>> The page has been locked for edits until the vote is concluded. >>>> >>>> To cast a vote, it is necessary to reply to this email, at >>>> >>>> dev@couchdb.apache.org >>>> >>>> with your vote as outlined under Section 3.3 of the Bylaws. As a >>>> reminder, for the purpose of tallying, all values will be counted as +1, >>>> -1 or nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >> -- >> Noah Slater >> https://twitter.com/nslater >
