On 7 August 2014 08:54, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 07 Aug 2014, at 00:51 , Robert Samuel Newson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > The Chair is also and Officer of the ASF ( > https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers), > so are we only able to select an existing Officer or does being elected as > Chair cause one to become an Officer? If so, do they remain an Officer if > subsequently replaced by another? > > My understanding is this: Any PMC member can become PMC chair. The ASF > Office of Chair is relinquished when giving up the position. ASF membership > is orthogonal to all this. >
also my understanding. > On 07 Aug 2014, at 01:41 , Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As for term start/end, does Jan have an opinion here? If he's exhausted, > I > > don't want to force him to continue past his ability to serve. > > I’m happy with the new rules. I don’t have a preference as to when the > term should start. I’m happy to serve another term :) > I expected this Jan - so that's the reason why I suggested to start now with the term and elect in 12 months :) Cheers Andy > > Best > Jan > -- > > > > B. > > > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 23:29, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> seconding Paul. Was my first thought also. Starting the term now, so > that > >> we hold an election in 12 months. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> > >> On 7 August 2014 00:08, Paul Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I'd lean towards having the term start now instead of end now. I can't > >>> come up with a super convincing argument either direction though. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> Hello folks, > >>>> > >>>> It's time we have a discussion about the position of Chair. Jan has > >>>> held office for a while now, and has done a great job of it. But our > >>>> new bylaws specify that we will hold yearly reelections. > >>>> > >>>> We have a number of options here: > >>>> > >>>> 1. We say that Jan's position started on the day the bylaws were > >>>> ratified, and in 12 months we hold an election. > >>>> > >>>> 2. We say that Jan's position is up (having already held it for more > >>>> than 12 months) and we either nominated a new Chair or we hold a vote. > >>>> > >>>> Let's try to get general consensus about which option we want to take. > >>>> If there's clear agreement, we'll move forward with that option. > >>>> > >>>> Remember: our rationale for re-electing the Chair is that we think > >>>> that doing so is beneficial for the project. Giving new people a > >>>> chance to serve a term may stimulate activity and change, and so on. > >>>> It also helps familiarise as many people as possible with all parts of > >>>> the project. > >>>> > >>>> Jan has done a sterling job, and nobody can deny it. This discussion > >>>> isn't about whether we need to replace him. It's only about when we > >>>> set the end date of his current term. Immediately or 12 months in the > >>>> future. :) > >>>> > >>>> Also, please, whatever you do, please do not reply to this email with > >>>> a nomination. Such as: "I think Monty would make a good Chair." Chair > >>>> nomination itself will happen in private on the PMC list. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Noah Slater > >>>> https://twitter.com/nslater > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Wenk > >> Hamburg - Germany > >> RockIt! > >> > >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >> > >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > > > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
