It looks like we reached consensus here. Jan's term started the day we voted the bylaws in. I will set a reminder for 12 months. :)
On 8 August 2014 19:39, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob, individuals are Officers of the Foundation for the duration they > hold the position of Chair. You need to be an Officer (in American > corporation law) to carry out your duties as Chair. Nothing any more > complex than that. > > VP CouchDB is Jan's title as an Officer. Whoever is elected next will > also get the title VP CouchDB, and will also become an Officer. > Meanwhile, Jan will no longer be the Chair, the VP CouchDB, or an > Officer. > > Do you think this needs clarification in the bylaws? > > On 7 August 2014 00:51, Robert Samuel Newson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The Chair is also and Officer of the ASF >> (https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers), so >> are we only able to select an existing Officer or does being elected as >> Chair cause one to become an Officer? If so, do they remain an Officer if >> subsequently replaced by another? >> >> B. >> >> On 6 Aug 2014, at 23:29, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> seconding Paul. Was my first thought also. Starting the term now, so that >>> we hold an election in 12 months. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> On 7 August 2014 00:08, Paul Davis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd lean towards having the term start now instead of end now. I can't >>>> come up with a super convincing argument either direction though. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hello folks, >>>>> >>>>> It's time we have a discussion about the position of Chair. Jan has >>>>> held office for a while now, and has done a great job of it. But our >>>>> new bylaws specify that we will hold yearly reelections. >>>>> >>>>> We have a number of options here: >>>>> >>>>> 1. We say that Jan's position started on the day the bylaws were >>>>> ratified, and in 12 months we hold an election. >>>>> >>>>> 2. We say that Jan's position is up (having already held it for more >>>>> than 12 months) and we either nominated a new Chair or we hold a vote. >>>>> >>>>> Let's try to get general consensus about which option we want to take. >>>>> If there's clear agreement, we'll move forward with that option. >>>>> >>>>> Remember: our rationale for re-electing the Chair is that we think >>>>> that doing so is beneficial for the project. Giving new people a >>>>> chance to serve a term may stimulate activity and change, and so on. >>>>> It also helps familiarise as many people as possible with all parts of >>>>> the project. >>>>> >>>>> Jan has done a sterling job, and nobody can deny it. This discussion >>>>> isn't about whether we need to replace him. It's only about when we >>>>> set the end date of his current term. Immediately or 12 months in the >>>>> future. :) >>>>> >>>>> Also, please, whatever you do, please do not reply to this email with >>>>> a nomination. Such as: "I think Monty would make a good Chair." Chair >>>>> nomination itself will happen in private on the PMC list. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noah Slater >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Wenk >>> Hamburg - Germany >>> RockIt! >>> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> > > > > -- > Noah Slater > https://twitter.com/nslater -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater
