I found a couple of other bits while grep’ing through the documentation for
“deprecated”:
> * The ``stale`` parameter for views and ``_find`` has been deprecated in
> favour
> of two new parameters: ``stable`` and ``update``. The old ``stale=ok``
> behaviour is equivalent to ``stable=true&update=false``, and the old
> ``stale=update_after`` behaviour is equivalent to
> ``stable=true&update=lazy``.
> The deprecated ``stale`` parameter will be removed in CouchDB 3.0.
and
> * :ghissue:`820`, :ghissue:`1032`: Multiple queries can now be made at the
> ``POST /{db}/_all_docs/queries``, ``POST /{db}/_design_docs/queries`` and
> ``POST /{db}/_local_docs/queries`` endpoints. Also, a new endpoint
> ``POST /{db}/_design/{ddoc}/_view/{view}/queries`` has been introduced to
> replace
> the ``?queries`` parameter formerly provided for making multiple queries to
> a view.
> The old ``?queries`` parameter *is now deprecated and will be removed in a
> future
> release of CouchDB.*
I’m not super-excited about following through on either of those deprecations
:) I feel like the `stale` one in particular is still in heavy use. The queries
one is probably OK.
On the FDB topic, I believe the transaction logs are configured with the
equivalent of delayed_commits=false (thus ensuring the durability of a
transaction), while the storage servers only periodically fsync data that they
pull off the transaction logs. I don’t think the fsync behavior can be
configured using the normal configuration file, but if you go digging into the
codebase there’s a Knobs file that has all kinds of settings that shouldn’t be
messed with by mere mortals :) I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the
durability settings can be tweaked there.
Adam
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2019-09-04 20:53, Adam Kocoloski wrote:
>> Great list, Joan, thanks. I created a handful of GitHub issues for the first
>> two sections and tossed them in the “Proposed for 3.x” column. I also
>> submitted a PR to address one of them :)
>
> Cheers! I've also retitled that column "3.0 Release Tasks" since I think
> that's how we're treating it. If it turns out anything needs to be
> bumped to 3.x, we can create a new column for that.
>
>> Out of that list of already-deprecated functionality the only one that gives
>> me pause is the delayed_commits one. We haven’t talked about it in years,
>> and we ship a safe default. I’d be a little concerned about breaking folks
>> who intentionally switched it on with full knowledge of the tradeoffs.
>
> Another option would be to just remove the setting from default.ini and
> the documentation.
>
> Does FDB have anything similar?
>
> -Joan
>
>> Adam
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Johs Ensby <j...@b2w.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Much appreciated, Joan
>>> You're a hero
>>> Johs
>>>
>>>> On 4 Sep 2019, at 23:37, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Adam,
>>>>
>>>>> When it comes to deprecating and/or removing functionality, I feel like I
>>>>> don’t know exactly where we stand today. We have occasionally described
>>>>> some of the CouchApp functionality as already being deprecated, but I’m
>>>>> having trouble finding any official record of that in our documentation.
>>>> Thanks for re-opening the deprecation discussion. I've reviewed [1] and
>>>> provide the following summary tables (Markdown format).
>>>>
>>>> **NOTE**: This is /not/ the vote for deprecation, nor a formal
>>>> announcement of such. This is a starting point for discussion. A vote
>>>> still needs to happen for this to move forward. Anything already
>>>> deprecated in 2.0 can be removed in 3.0 without a formal vote, but it'd
>>>> be nice if it got mentioned on the dev@ list before the PR lands on
>>>> master, please.
>>>>
>>>> As I'm going to be travelling for most of the rest of September, I'd
>>>> prefer if someone else (like Adam or Deni) can help drive this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Once there is consensus from the community on these lists, we should
>>>> close #1534 and split it into 3 new tickets based on the tables below
>>>> (excepting the features already removed in 2.x).
>>>>
>>>>> I guess let’s start with: does anyone believe we are in a position to be
>>>>> eliminating previously-deprecated functionality in 3.0?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, for the items in the 2nd table below, absolutely.
>>>>
>>>> -Joan "turning the tables" Touzet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # Recently removed features in 2.x
>>>>
>>>> **Feature/Endpoint** | **Links**
>>>> ------------------------------------|------------
>>>> update_notifications | [10]
>>>> ini-file based query servers | [11]
>>>> ini-file based HTTP global handlers | [11]
>>>> OS daemons | [11],[12]
>>>> vhost redirects/global handlers | [11],[12]
>>>> couch_httpd_proxy | [11],[12]
>>>>
>>>> *NOTE*: Some of these still have lingering bits in the documentation
>>>> that need a final cleanup pass before 3.0 should be released.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> # Already deprecated items, to be removed in 3.0
>>>>
>>>> **Feature/Endpoint** | **Links**
>>>> ------------------------------------|------------
>>>> some duplicate dbinfo size fields | [2],[3]
>>>> delayed_commits | [4]
>>>> port 5986 | [5],[6]
>>>> `/{db}/_external/*` | [7],[8]
>>>> view-based changes (code remnants) | [17],[18],[19],[20]
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> # Proposed deprecations for 3.0, not rebuilt/removed in 4.0
>>>>
>>>> **Feature/Endpoint** | **Replaced by** | **Links**
>>>> --------------------------|----------------------|-----------
>>>> `/{db}/{ddoc}/_show/*` | App server/rev proxy | †
>>>> `/{db}/{ddoc}/_list/*` | App server/rev proxy | †
>>>> virtual hosts [24] | haproxy, multitenant | [25]
>>>> `/{db}/{ddoc}/_rewrite/*` | App server/rev proxy | [26]
>>>>
>>>> †: getRow() makes embedding a new, efficient JS engine impossible since
>>>> getRow() does not give up thread execution control; an entirely new
>>>> approach would need to be constructed, breaking backward compatibility
>>>> at the very least. (There are additional challenges.)
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> # Likely will remain unchanged through 4.0
>>>>
>>>> **Feature/Endpoint** | **Improved by**
>>>> ---------------------------------|----------------------
>>>> VDU (validatefun()) [13] | [14],[15]
>>>> update handlers (updatefun) [16] | [14],[15]
>>>> JS engine [21] | [22],[23]
>>>> system DB special handling | [27]
>>>>
>>>> *NOTE*: The last table may grow as limitations imposed by FDB are better
>>>> understood.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>>
>>>> # References
>>>>
>>>> [1]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1534
>>>> [2]:
>>>> https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/api/database/common.html?highlight=disk-size#get--db
>>>> [3]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/2163
>>>> [4]:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/blob/103a0624f309ea0d796176a55eb5faea68f26047/test/javascript/tests/delayed_commits.js#L16
>>>> [5]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1523
>>>> [6]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/2092
>>>> [7]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/1330
>>>> [8]: https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/whatsnew/2.2.html
>>>> [10]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/1476
>>>> [11]: https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/whatsnew/2.3.html
>>>> [12]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/1602
>>>> [13]: https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/ddocs/ddocs.html#vdufun
>>>> [14]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1554
>>>> [15]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/1898
>>>> [16]: https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/ddocs/ddocs.html#update-functions
>>>> [17]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/592
>>>> [18]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/831
>>>> [19]:
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/516793df0c1913c045441d0ff78339f307e2aff517d9223da44edd9e@%3Cdev.couchdb.apache.org%3E
>>>> [20]:
>>>> http://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/api/database/changes.html?highlight=selector#selector
>>>> [21]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1513
>>>> [22]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1875
>>>> [23]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1884
>>>> [24]: https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/config/http.html#virtual-hosts
>>>> [25]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1539
>>>> [26]:
>>>> https://docs.couchdb.org/en/stable/api/ddoc/rewrites.html#api-ddoc-rewrite
>>>> [27]: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/issues/1534
>>>>
>>>
>>> ………………………………………
>>> Johannes Ensby
>>>
>>>
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>>
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