Hi Alex and Sean,

Thanks for the acknowledgement.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I have sent the github link - 
https://github.com/gandhirajan/cTAKES/tree/master/SpringUpgrade/ctakes-SVN-src  
that contains changes to be made to upgrade cTAKES to Spring4x. I have done it 
on my local sandbox and it works. But as I mentioned earlier, I was not able to 
test ytex module changes as I'm not aware of those modules. Matthew is already 
testing the spring upgrade changes and hopefully we will able be close it. If 
you could test the ytex modules, it will be of great help I guess.

Regarding docker works on cTAKES, hats off to Matthew. We can assist him if he 
needs any help out there.

Regarding REST API, we are planning to use Spring REST service as introducing 
Jersey container may be an overhead I feel. Also regarding your idea on new 
module, I too agree with you. But in the new module, we can improvise Chei 
Pen's work in this link - 
https://github.com/healthnlp/examples/tree/master/ctakes-temporal-demo and name 
it as 'ctakes-web' or 'ctakes-web-rest' so that the module can be used to build 
cTAKES as both traditional web app as well as expose it as an REST service. 
It's just a thought from my side which we can discuss upon.

Once the web-rest module is ready, I feel it will take cTAKES to a whole new 
level as you can even plug it with mobile applications that can send the 
clinical text for analysis and get JSON response that can be rendered on mobile 
app UI.

Suggestions are welcome. Cheers.

Regards,
Gandhi


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandru Zbarcea [mailto:zbarce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 6:07 PM
To: Apache cTAKES Dev <dev@ctakes.apache.org>
Subject: Re: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]

Gandhi and Matthew, thank you for your hard work.

I was working on upgrading libraries and fixing dependencies too. I would love 
to help with Spring dependency. For that reason, I have created issue:
"upgrade Spring dependency from 3.1.2 to 4.x" (CTAKES-472 [1]).

Another great idea is the REST service, for that reason I created
CTAKES-473 [2]. It was also requested by Chei Pen in CTAKES-188 [3]. I would 
like to know if you settled already to any framework (e.g. Jersey vs
CXF) and if you also manage the dictionaries and different profiles through the 
API.

The last important idea I get is the Dockerfile, which sounds great for the 
community to just test and play with cTAKES without the need of building and 
exploring the source code. I was testing your work Matthew, and I think it is a 
great start.

What is the community practice in code for features that require a longer time 
to be developed? Would it use a branch until it gets stable, or it is preferred 
to have it in trunk for a faster integration. The REST API feature, it will 
require a new module. Does the community prefers a name for it (i.e 
ctakes-rest-api) ?

Alex

[1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-472
[2] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-473
[3] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-188


On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Gandhi Rajan Natarajan < 
gandhi.natara...@arisglobal.com> wrote:

> Matthew,
>
> Looking forward to hear from you. Please let me know if there are any
> changes required to make the rest service more superior and
> performance effective. Cheers.
>
> Regards,
> Gandhi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Vita [mailto:matthewvit...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> Subject: Re: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
>
> Sean,
>
> Ghandi and I have met and we both agreed that his solution is superior
> to the one I was working on. Therefore, I will be helping to see this
> project through to the end so we can get it into the codebase!
>
> Here are the remaining work items that I will be spending time on:
>
>    1. Get it running (I'm using Linux Mint)
>    2. Test it out (including stress tests)
>    3. Automate it to run in Docker (just need UMLS credentials)
>    4. Make a call to
>    https://github.com/GoTeamEpsilon/cTAKES-Concept-Mention-Parser to get a
>    nice JSON payload that is easy to traverse (this can be an optional
> switch,
>    of course - I believe it may be best to rewrite this in Java should
> this be
>    included with the solution)
>    5. Test the output in my web viewer:
>    https://github.com/GoTeamEpsilon/cTAKES-Friendly-Web-UI
>    6. Work on preparing the solution for the cTAKES core codebase. I will
>    prepare it with a very rich README.
>
> I will provide my updates over the coming days.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew Vita
> www.matthewvita.com
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Finan, Sean <
> sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gandhi,
> >
> > Thank you for the additional information.  Having a reliable rest
> > service included with ctakes would be a boon for everybody
> > interested in web access.  I look forward to checking out the info
> > in github as soon as I am able.
> >
> > Thanks to you and Mathew both!
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gandhi Rajan Natarajan
> > [mailto:gandhi.natara...@arisglobal.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:44 AM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > I feel it's better to upgrade cTAKES Spring version to 4x so that
> > exposing it as rest service becomes seamless. Please find the github
> > link that contains the proposed changes for Spring upgrade in
> > cTAKES,
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.
> > com_gandhirajan_cTAKES_tree_master_SpringUpgrade_ctakes-
> > 2DSVN-2Dsrc&d=DwIFAg&c=qS4goWBT7poplM69zy_3xhKwEW14JZMSdioCoppxeFU&r
> > =
> > fs67GvlGZstTpyIisCYNYmQCP6r0bcpKGd4f7d4gTao&m=cedfmyhdY7P3qZdiVB-
> > gp0T0WinfllT61pLMqbP_Jyw&s=eMYiHpgQwJ5Zjc7-gW6qyAJ3AS3-H622ZVSJEJcgd
> > 8s
> > &e=
> >
> > I have not tested the changes in ytex modules as I'm not sure how to
> > go about that.
> >
> > Matthew Vita will be reviewing the changes. He is also reviewing and
> > testing my rest service changes. He will provide more info to us
> > once we are done with our testing. So that we can discuss about
> > productizing the same.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gandhi
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Finan, Sean [mailto:sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 12:53 AM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi Gandhi,
> >
> > That sounds really great!  Thank you for sharing the process!
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gandhi Rajan Natarajan
> > [mailto:gandhi.natara...@arisglobal.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:02 PM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > I'm glad to inform that I was able to upgrade cTAKES to Spring 4 in
> > my sandbox. As you have mentioned, it is used by uima fit for firing
> > some queries.
> >
> > To brief it, I did the following changes:
> >
> > 1) Changing SimpleJdbcTemplate to JdbcTemplate in uima modules
> > 2) Changing Spring version in cTAKES root pom.xml
> > 3) Adding Spring versions in ctakes type system, ctakes assertion,
> > ctakes ytex and ctakes ytex web modules.
> >
> > Now I'm able to expose cTAKES as a rest service which takes the
> > clinical text as Input and outputs the result.
> >
> >  Hope it helps someone.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gandhi
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gandhi Rajan Natarajan
> > [mailto:gandhi.natara...@arisglobal.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:33 PM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > Thanks for the instant response. Will try to upgrade to Spring 4 and
> > keep you posted about the progress.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gandhi
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Finan, Sean [mailto:sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:28 PM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi Gandhi,
> >
> > You can always build ctakes in your sandbox with spring 4 and see if
> > it works.  This may require some "maven magic"(overrides) on your
> > part.  If it does seem to work please create a jira item to upgrade
> > the
> spring version.
> > Then hopefully before the next release somebody will thoroughly test
> > an update.
> >
> > Offhand I don't know if or why spring is needed for ctakes itself.
> > At a quick search it looks like uimafit requires it.  Does anybody
> > out there know what spring capabilities are used, directly or
> > indirectly, by ctakes modules?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sean
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gandhi Rajan Natarajan
> > [mailto:gandhi.natara...@arisglobal.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:20 AM
> > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > Subject: cTAKES as REST service [EXTERNAL]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We have extended the cTAKES web application available under
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.
> > com_healthnlp_examples_tree_master_ctakes-2Dtemporal-2Ddemo&d=DwIFAg
> > &c = qS4goWBT7poplM69zy_3xhKwEW14JZMSdioCoppxeFU&r=
> > fs67GvlGZstTpyIisCYNYmQCP6r0bcpKGd4f7d4gTao&m=e5GMRO_
> > 5OwQhQrkfpV5fwBp7uG07tZVd1u_xJRo9wDs&s=meOj7MzEliqIQEhU_
> > FeQwEnsUrWFSzgk5ihSEzoGRCI&e= and added our custom annotator. We
> > have tested the same and it works fine with CVD. But we are facing
> > problems while trying to expose this as rest service.
> >
> > cTAKES uses Spring 3.1.2 version internally which don't have out of
> > the box support for rest controller. Can we go ahead and update the
> > spring version to 4x in cTAKES? Will it have any impact in the
> > cTAKES
> behavior?
> > Also is there a better way to expose cTAKES as rest service apart
> > from spring?
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gandhi
> >
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