Christofer,

So in DFDL, unlike regular XSD, only elements can be repeating/optional.


You can't have max/minOccurs on a choice or sequence, only on an element.


DFDL isn't only for XML. Many data models that the DFDL infoset could be 
projected into, those data models don't allow repeating or optional  entities 
that aren't named and unitary.


If we had allowed repeating anonymous groups, then if you interfaced DFDL 
directly to a language with tthis, we'd be having to generate names for these 
anonymous groups. We decided instead to keep the data model for DFDL simpler. 
If it repeats or is optional it has to be an element.


The rationale here is the same reason we left out attributes of XSD. DFDL has 
only elements. This is because this dual-child tree where a node can have 
element children AND attribute children that have the same names that do not 
get mixed up... that's unique to XML, and DFDL is trying to be not so tied to 
XML/XSD, but able to describe data and project that data into the native data 
structures of many data models.


...mike beckerle

Tresys Technology


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From: Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:15:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Daffodil ignoring dfdl:length=0 when dfdl:lengthKind=explicit

(Wonder why every response turns out to be a private off-list response ... 
gotta remember to hit "reply to all")

Thanks guys ... that worked like a charm ;-)

Now I stumbled into the next little problem I couldn't find any documentation 
on.

Now I have two situations:
1) The "parameterLength" provides the number of bytes all parameters consume, 
so the parser should continue parsing parameters as long as there are bytes 
left to read.
How can I tell the sequence or the choice allow multiple instances?

2) I have "numItems" specifying the number of item-elements (also different 
types) so here not the number of bytes controls how many items are parsed, but 
the plain number of elements.
Here too I cant find a way to specify a xs:minOccurs, xs:maxOccurs or 
dfdl:occursCount ... all seem to be invalid for both sequence and choice.

Chris

Am 15.01.19, 18:52 schrieb "Steve Lawrence" <[email protected]>:

    It's not that Daffodil is ignoring dfdl:lengthKind="0", it's just that
    is allows length of zero to be valid. There are actually some use cases
    where zero length is valid, and you would want this to cause a backtrack
    if the children required more than zero bytes.

    In this case, you just need to make it so that if the length is zero
    then it does not attempt to parse any child elements. One way to
    accomplish this is via dfdl:occursCountKind="expression" and
    dfdl:occursCount, something like so:

      <xs:element name="payloads" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1
        dfdl:lengthKind="explicit" dfdl:lengthUnits="bytes"
        dfdl:length="{../payloadsLength }"
        dfdl:occursCountKind="expression" dfdl:occursCount="{
      if (../payloadsLength eq 0) then 0 else 1
      }"
        <xs:complexType>
          <xs:sequence>
            <xs:choice>
              <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestPayloadCpuServices"/>
              <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestPayloadWriteVar"/>
            </xs:choice>
          </xs:sequence>
        </xs:complexType>
      </xs:element>

    This changes the payloads element to be optional (minOccurs=0) and
    defines the occurrences as either 0 or 1 based on the value of the
    payloadsLength. If the length is 1, the payloads element will not exist
    in the infoset and it will not attempt to parse the child data.

    - Steve



    On 1/15/19 10:39 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > after working though the 6 tutorials on DFDL in general I think I have a 
much greater understanding on how I have to do things. I even managed to get my 
S7 protocol messages schema in a somewhat working condition.
    > Right now I’m having one problem:
    > A S7 Messages consists of a header, a number of variable length 
parameters and a number of variable length payloads.
    > As parameters and payloads are of variable length, the header contains a 
“parametersLength” and “payloadsLength” field which contains the number of 
bytes the parameters and payloads require in total.
    > So I defined something like this:
    >
    >
    > <xs:element name="parametersLength" type="s7:short"/>
    > <xs:element name="payloadsLength" type="s7:short"/>
    > <xs:element name="parameters" dfdl:lengthKind="explicit" 
dfdl:lengthUnits="bytes" dfdl:length="{../parametersLength}">
    >     <xs:complexType>
    >         <xs:sequence>
    >             <xs:choice>
    >                 <xs:element 
ref="s7:S7GeneralParameterSetupCommunication"/>
    >                 <xs:element ref="s7:SS7RequestParameterCPUService"/>
    >                 <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestParameterReadVar"/>
    >                 <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestParameterWriteVar"/>
    >             </xs:choice>
    >         </xs:sequence>
    >     </xs:complexType>
    > </xs:element>
    > <xs:element name="payloads" dfdl:lengthKind="explicit" 
dfdl:lengthUnits="bytes" dfdl:length="{../payloadsLength}">
    >     <xs:complexType>
    >         <xs:sequence>
    >             <xs:choice>
    >                 <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestPayloadCpuServices"/>
    >                 <xs:element ref="s7:S7RequestPayloadWriteVar"/>
    >             </xs:choice>
    >         </xs:sequence>
    >     </xs:complexType>
    > </xs:element>
    >
    > However in a request, that doesn’t contain any payloads, daffodil still 
tries to parse the payloads, even if the “length” of the sequence is set to 
explicit and to a length of 0 … why is it doing that?
    > Each parameter and payloads first byte contains the code that tells the 
parser what type it is and each of the elements in my schema use a 
discriminator to tell the parser which input it is requiring.
    >
    >
    > <xs:element name="S7RequestPayloadCpuServices">
    >     <xs:annotation>
    >         <xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/";>
    >             <dfdl:discriminator test="{./type eq 0}"/>
    >         </xs:appinfo>
    >     </xs:annotation>
    >     <xs:complexType>
    >         <xs:sequence>
    >             <xs:element name="type" type="s7:byte"/>
    >             <xs:element name="transportSize" type="s7:byte"/><!-- 
fixed="9"-->
    >             <xs:element name="length" type="s7:byte"/>
    >             <xs:element name="sslId" type="s7:short"/>
    >             <xs:element name="sslIndex" type="s7:short"/>
    >         </xs:sequence>
    >     </xs:complexType>
    > </xs:element>
    >
    > Hope it’s correct to do things like that …
    >
    > The effect is that Daffodil has correctly parsed all the parameters and 
as there is no payload (payloadLength = 0) it shouldn’t try to parse a payload, 
but it does and when reading the first byte it instantly fails as there is no 
data to parse anymore.
    >
    >
    > Chris
    >



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