+1!

| For the transition: You could add an auto reply to the Google Group with
a convenient link to mailto:[email protected] and
leave the group for a while, or indefinitely.

I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is the
date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
can't post a new one.

Evans

leerho <[email protected]> 於 2020年2月7日 週五 下午2:36寫道:

> Kenn,
> Thanks for your suggestion about the alias -- great idea.  But how do we
> link Slack and StackOverflow to user@ ?  I did some searching on Slack to
> see if there was some configuration to automatically transcribe the
> messages there directly to an Apache mail list, but I could not find any
> way to do that.  I don't know anything about how StackOverflow works.
>
> Lee.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:42 PM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1 - thanks for surfacing the reasoning on the dev@ list.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> +1 to the proposal
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> For the transition: You could add an auto reply to the Google Group with
>>> a convenient link to mailto:[email protected] and
>>> leave the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>>>
>>> From experience, I think Lee is right: many people are shy about writing
>>> to dev@ even when they are well-qualified and have very clear and good
>>> questions to contribute. TBH they are also shy about writing to user@
>>> in many cases. Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth
>>> considering how to tie these together to include all these different sorts
>>> of users. But I am also on the side of establishing a user@ mailing
>>> list early. For Beam, it has always had much less traffic (recently dev@
>>> was 5x user@) but still is a valuable resource for those who use it.
>>>
>>> If consensus becomes apparent, a mentor can set up user@/users@
>>> (definitely go with an alias for both here).
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Eric Bax <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Approve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 10:22 AM, leerho <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> This is a call for a vote on the following:
>>>>
>>>> I propose that we deprecate the Google Groups
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sketches-user> forum and
>>>> direct users to a newly created users@ email list.
>>>>
>>>> The steps would be as follows:
>>>>
>>>>    1. Create a new [email protected] email list.
>>>>    2. Clearly mark the existing Google Groups site as deprecated and
>>>>    direct users to the new list.
>>>>    3. Update all references to the Google Groups site on our web site
>>>>    and repository READMEs to the new list.
>>>>
>>>> This vote will be performed in one stage:
>>>>    - This letter will be published on dev@ and remain open for at
>>>> least 72 hours and at least 3 (+1) PPMC votes or a majority of (+1) are
>>>> acquired. All PPMC members including Mentors can vote.
>>>>
>>>> Please vote accordingly:
>>>>
>>>> [ ] +1 approve
>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lee Rhodes
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>

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