codi is not that used, and not sure bv is explicit enough in all languages.
hibernate uses "validator", other can use jsr330/jsr349. Since this module can be an in between 330 and 349 maybe using jsr330 is good but IMO has the same drawback as "bv". If you don't follow specs and/or dev them you don't know what it is. *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> > we never had an issue with that in codi where we use "bv" since 2010. > > regards, > gerhard > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > even when speaking? > > > > Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users. > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> > > > > > we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec. > document. > > > > > > regards, > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many > > > times > > > > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java > > Persistence > > > > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO. > > > > > > > > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others. > > > > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > Gerhard, > > > > > > > > > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is > > > > > beanvalidation-dev. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek < > > > > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hi john, > > > > > > > > > > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1]. > > > > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]" > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gerhard/thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to > > > BeanValidation > > > > as > > > > > > bv > > > > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans > > > > > Validation). > > > > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since > > > google > > > > is > > > > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming > > > questions, > > > > it > > > > > > > would typically return the programming references first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows > > > > > beanvalidation.org, > > > > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > romain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose > > > > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of > > > beanval, > > > > > > would > > > > > > > anyone mind that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek < > > > > > > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi john, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...). > > > > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated > > > > > modules, i > > > > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the > > > > modules > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > corresponding specs). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache > > > impl. > > > > So > > > > > > id > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things > > > > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" < > > john.d.am...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > écrit > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean > > Validation > > > > > module > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the > > > name > > > > > > > > "beanval" > > > > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" > that > > > > could > > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related > > to > > > > > JSR303 > > > > > > > > > > support. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about > the > > > > given > > > > > > > > names, > > > > > > > > > > could you speak up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
