hi marvin,

a released version can't get dropped later on.
(it's important that the commit and release history is immutable.)

therefore we send out a heads-up mail (about two weeks before a
release-vote).
(since we release quite often some projects even have a 2nd ci-job which
executes the test-suite (of the application) against the latest (daily)
snapshot (see [1]) to ensure that they can upgrade to the next version
easily and without a significant overhead.)

regards,
gerhard

[1] http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/snapshots.html



2015-08-12 16:15 GMT+02:00 Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com>:

> Gerhard,
>
>
>
> We are attempting to provide feedback as we have time.  There was quite a
> bit of confusion for a couple of days as we naturally presumed our problems
> were of our own making.
>
>
>
> So, until such time as Amita (a.k.a. “akm”) is able to get us
> “back-on-track” and subsequently provide concrete examples… my suggestion
> was (and is) to remove 1.4.2 from circulation.
>
>
>
> Note: We would like to think that our problems are similar to Harald’s…
> however, we have no definitive understanding of Harald’s problems.  Is that
> available?
>
>
>
> _Marvin
>
>
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> *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:13 AM
> *To:* dev@deltaspike.apache.org; Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.5.0
>
>
>
> hi marvin,
>
>
>
> please provide concrete details and maybe even tests which illustrate the
> issue.
>
> only with such tests, we can improve our test-suite over time.
>
> (if you are facing the same issue as harald: we will fix it with v1.5.1.)
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> gerhard
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>
>
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>
> 2015-08-12 14:53 GMT+02:00 Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com>:
>
> An update from an unspecified Motor Company:
>
> We made the decision to roll-back from 1.4.2 to 1.4.0 this morning... as
> we had skipped 1.4.1.
>
> I'd suggest that you pull 1.4.2... as it now appears this release broke
> about 50 of our Reference Application JUnit tests.
>
> _Marvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harald Wellmann [mailto:hwellmann...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:30 PM
> To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.5.0
>
> Hi Gerhard,
>
> I compared to 1.4.1 because that's the last known good version, 1.4.2
> broke my application already (DELTASPIKE-965),
>
> After some analysis, I believe the "new regressions" I reported yesterday
> were introduced in 1.4.2 and not in 1.5.0 - I wasn't able to see them with
> 1.4.2 due to that first blocker (or maybe I should have looked more
> closely).
>
> The point is, the behavior of EntityRepository.save() has changed in an
> incompatible way which is likely to break some other applications (not just
> mine).
>
>
> I now change my vote to +1, seeing that this 1.5.0 candidate is an
> improvement over 1.4.2, but that does not mean that all is well - we need
> to sort out a couple of issues related to save().
>
> I'll start a separate thread on that, to keep the discussion focused.
>
> Regards,
> Harald
>
>
>
>
>

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